Absolutely, you'll need developers and testers. To think you necessarily need thousands of them, though, is a stretch. I think people have drunk the kool aid

Absolutely, you'll need developers and testers. To think you necessarily need thousands of them, though, is a stretch. I think people have drunk the kool aid over the past decade of 'growth-driven' startup where the game was to hire as many engineers as possible as fast as possible. This is what is partially fueling the current job reduction cycle in the industry. There are simply more engineers on the payroll than needed to deliver a profitable product.