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As if the poor couldn’t vote to change things if they wanted to.

lnxg33k1 4y ago
One of the worst things I've learnt about US, is that like the poor can't just go to vote, as it is not a public holiday but they need to ask for permission from their bosses? Like there are a lot of bad things I've learnt along the years about of US treats poors, and I think this one is on the podium
- niij 4y ago
  Voting is done at a local/state level in the US. 30 states mandate employer provided time off, while 20 do not. https://www.patriotsoftware.com/blog/payroll/does-your-state-require-time-off-to-vote/ https://www.patriotsoftware.com/blog/payroll/does-your-state...
dns_snek 4y ago
Vote for whom? Which political party represents interests of the people who are looking for systematic changes in favor of the working class? It's extremely hard to democratically enact change even in countries with multiple political parties and proportional representation. The US doesn't even have that, it's an illusion of choice with 2 parties who are equally corrupt.
- lfodofod 4y ago
  If this was genuinely an important issue to even just the 38 million people living under the poverty line, they could certainly find candidates. If you count low-income people as poor, you’re speaking of something like a hundred million people. The real problem is that people simply don’t care. People are much more willing to go to the polls over their right to own guns than issues like this.
acdha 4y ago
Which they have been doing, as you might have noticed. This has led to lavishly-funded opposition aimed at splitting that coalition - note the sums poured into misrepresenting the SF DA, for example. The case of making treatment of the poor more humanely is more sympathetic so there’s every reason to believe that opposition to consequences for rich people would be _less_ well funded and more affluent people would find excuses not to support it, just as we’ve see for things like trying to get rich people to pay taxes at the same rates.

One of the worst things I've learnt about US, is that like the poor can't just go to vote, as it is not a public holiday but they need to ask for permission from their bosses? Like there are a lot of bad things I've learnt along the years about of US treats poors, and I think this one is on the podium

niij 4y ago
Voting is done at a local/state level in the US. 30 states mandate employer provided time off, while 20 do not. https://www.patriotsoftware.com/blog/payroll/does-your-state-require-time-off-to-vote/ https://www.patriotsoftware.com/blog/payroll/does-your-state...

dns_snek 4y ago

Vote for whom? Which political party represents interests of the people who are looking for systematic changes in favor of the working class? It's extremely hard to democratically enact change even in countries with multiple political parties and proportional representation. The US doesn't even have that, it's an illusion of choice with 2 parties who are equally corrupt.

lfodofod 4y ago
If this was genuinely an important issue to even just the 38 million people living under the poverty line, they could certainly find candidates. If you count low-income people as poor, you’re speaking of something like a hundred million people. The real problem is that people simply don’t care. People are much more willing to go to the polls over their right to own guns than issues like this.

acdha 4y ago

Which they have been doing, as you might have noticed. This has led to lavishly-funded opposition aimed at splitting that coalition - note the sums poured into misrepresenting the SF DA, for example. The case of making treatment of the poor more humanely is more sympathetic so there’s every reason to believe that opposition to consequences for rich people would be _less_ well funded and more affluent people would find excuses not to support it, just as we’ve see for things like trying to get rich people to pay taxes at the same rates.