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Google Calls in Help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. Fight

43 points by signa11 4y ago

ewokone 4y ago
Link?
- onetokeoverthe 4y ago
  Click on the headline. It's a hyperlink. Looks like new competition in the dumbing down department. Only 5 pages of search results vs regurgitated internet text. A race to the bot. 'um... Updated Jan. 21, 2023, 1:53 a.m. ET Last month, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Google’s founders, held several meetings with company executives. The topic: a rival’s new chatbot, a clever A.I. product that looked as if it could be the first notable threat in decades to Google’s $149 billion search business. Mr. Page and Mr. Brin, who had not spent much time at Google since they left their daily roles with the company in 2019, reviewed Google’s artificial intelligence product strategy, according to two people with knowledge of the meetings who were not allowed to discuss them. They approved plans and pitched ideas to put more chatbot features into Google’s search engine. And they offered advice to company leaders, who have put A.I. front and center in their plans. The re-engagement of Google’s founders, at the invitation of the company’s current chief executive, Sundar Pichai, emphasized the urgency felt among many Google executives about artificial intelligence and that chatbot....(which shall remain name less.)
- signa11 4y ago
  clicking on the headline seems to work just fine for me…
  - xdavidliu 4y ago
    your parent comment probably thought the article was paywalled, and was looking for an archive.ph link but was unaware that you could just append the original url
    - signa11 4y ago
      ah! thank you kindly for the explanation.
- thomas_hn 4y ago
  https://archive.ph/5V3jf https://archive.ph/5V3jf
- xdavidliu 4y ago
  you can append the original URL to the string "archive.ph/", then put that in your browser.
TechnicolorByte 4y ago
It’s interesting that Google—the inventor of the “T” in GPT—is on red alert due to ChatGPT. And Google has a bunch of research in AI (see Dean’s recent blogpost [1]), so what gives with their lack of AI product/execution/strategy? Too scared to upend their existing cash cow maybe, aka innovator’s dilemma? Also, it doesn’t inspire confidence in Pichai that Sergei and Brin were consulted about something that should be on the forefront of Google’s strategy. Maybe that’s too harsh but I just find all this surprising. [1] https://ai.googleblog.com/2023/01/google-research-2022-beyond-language.html?m=1 https://ai.googleblog.com/2023/01/google-research-2022-beyon...
- Aqueous 4y ago
  I think it does the opposite of not inspiring confidence. A good leader knows when they’re facing a tough problem that they don’t have all the answers for and they need help solving it. Reaching out for that help rather than trying to muddle through on your own could be the difference between success and a disaster. Not sure Larry and Sergei are the ones to give it but it doesn’t hurt to have them involved.
  - bogomipz 4y ago
    >"A good leader knows when they’re facing a tough problem that they don’t have all the answers for and they need help solving it. Reaching out for that help rather than trying to muddle through on your own could be the difference between success and a disaster." There is no reason why he would have ever needed to "muddle through" on his own. The article states Google acquired DeepMind an AI research lab in 2014 as well as the fact that Google has its own Advanced Technology Review Council. This is in addition to the insane hiring spree that the company went on in recent years where presumably they did or should have been hiring even more AI competencies. Given these things, having to call in the founders who stepped away from the company 3 years ago kind of make this CEO look incompetent.
    - aatd86 4y ago
      I guess the founder's mindset is different from the CEO's mindset in that strategic positioning, especially when market is in flux, is second-nature to founders. A CEO getting in position after a company is well-established is often merely the "toppest" manager.
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43 points by signa11 4y ago

ewokone 4y ago

Link?

onetokeoverthe 4y ago
Click on the headline. It's a hyperlink. Looks like new competition in the dumbing down department. Only 5 pages of search results vs regurgitated internet text. A race to the bot. 'um... Updated Jan. 21, 2023, 1:53 a.m. ET Last month, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Google’s founders, held several meetings with company executives. The topic: a rival’s new chatbot, a clever A.I. product that looked as if it could be the first notable threat in decades to Google’s $149 billion search business. Mr. Page and Mr. Brin, who had not spent much time at Google since they left their daily roles with the company in 2019, reviewed Google’s artificial intelligence product strategy, according to two people with knowledge of the meetings who were not allowed to discuss them. They approved plans and pitched ideas to put more chatbot features into Google’s search engine. And they offered advice to company leaders, who have put A.I. front and center in their plans. The re-engagement of Google’s founders, at the invitation of the company’s current chief executive, Sundar Pichai, emphasized the urgency felt among many Google executives about artificial intelligence and that chatbot....(which shall remain name less.)
signa11 4y ago
clicking on the headline seems to work just fine for me…
- xdavidliu 4y ago
  your parent comment probably thought the article was paywalled, and was looking for an archive.ph link but was unaware that you could just append the original url
  - signa11 4y ago
    ah! thank you kindly for the explanation.
thomas_hn 4y ago
https://archive.ph/5V3jf https://archive.ph/5V3jf
xdavidliu 4y ago
you can append the original URL to the string "archive.ph/", then put that in your browser.

TechnicolorByte 4y ago

It’s interesting that Google—the inventor of the “T” in GPT—is on red alert due to ChatGPT. And Google has a bunch of research in AI (see Dean’s recent blogpost [1]), so what gives with their lack of AI product/execution/strategy? Too scared to upend their existing cash cow maybe, aka innovator’s dilemma? Also, it doesn’t inspire confidence in Pichai that Sergei and Brin were consulted about something that should be on the forefront of Google’s strategy. Maybe that’s too harsh but I just find all this surprising. [1] https://ai.googleblog.com/2023/01/google-research-2022-beyond-language.html?m=1 https://ai.googleblog.com/2023/01/google-research-2022-beyon...

Aqueous 4y ago
I think it does the opposite of not inspiring confidence. A good leader knows when they’re facing a tough problem that they don’t have all the answers for and they need help solving it. Reaching out for that help rather than trying to muddle through on your own could be the difference between success and a disaster. Not sure Larry and Sergei are the ones to give it but it doesn’t hurt to have them involved.
- bogomipz 4y ago
  >"A good leader knows when they’re facing a tough problem that they don’t have all the answers for and they need help solving it. Reaching out for that help rather than trying to muddle through on your own could be the difference between success and a disaster." There is no reason why he would have ever needed to "muddle through" on his own. The article states Google acquired DeepMind an AI research lab in 2014 as well as the fact that Google has its own Advanced Technology Review Council. This is in addition to the insane hiring spree that the company went on in recent years where presumably they did or should have been hiring even more AI competencies. Given these things, having to call in the founders who stepped away from the company 3 years ago kind of make this CEO look incompetent.
  - aatd86 4y ago
    I guess the founder's mindset is different from the CEO's mindset in that strategic positioning, especially when market is in flux, is second-nature to founders. A CEO getting in position after a company is well-established is often merely the "toppest" manager.

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