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WEF are either completely tone deaf, or they're playing the role of the heel. "You will own nothing and you will be happy."

agnos 4y ago
This is what I don't understand. How is this and other public WEF content not guaranteed bad press/fuel for social unrest? Or is that the intent?
- walterbell 4y ago
  Trial/trolling balloons drive engagement and data analytics for group/individual sentiment analysis and message calibration.
  - tptacek 4y ago
    They're just a few tens of thousands of ops away from deploying the HypnoDrones.
    - walterbell 4y ago
      Social media is cheaper, faster and widely used, https://www.statista.com/statistics/539395/smartphone-penetration-worldwide-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/539395/smartphone-penetr...
- at_a_remove 4y ago
  I don't think they care. They can just shrug and say "Misinformation" and "You need to stop letting the alt-right scare you." And ten years later when you're squeezing the last of the bug-paste ("New Crunchy style!") out of your pre-third shift meal supplement packet and reading on the telescreen how the chocolate ration has been increased to five grams, well, you won't want to do anything rebellious in your safe little pod, lest your social credit scores sink enough that Amaflix and Marv-Ney deplatform your connection, and your options are twiddling your thumbs hoping another gig job makes itself available or you're reduced to leaving your head in the Satisfaction Tracker for one Hertz sampling of "engagement" as a nameless studio shows you pre-vis dumped out of MediaGPT-7 in between ads. Between your worries, your woes, and the relentless twenty smash cuts per second delivery of anything, your attention will be so atomized you won't be able to think back to how it all started.
  - noughtme 4y ago
    > Amaflix and Marv-Ney What's Marv-Ney?
    - htkibar 4y ago
      MARV-el, dis-NEY
    - 20after4 4y ago
      Marvel + Disney?
- version_five 4y ago
  Maybe I'm reading too much into it - whether by design or not, their public statements are serving them very well. They have a strong following (no doubt here, and on LinkedIn all the time I see people "liking" the pap they post), so they are playing to their base. Second, if your enemy had a choleric temper, antagonize him. The people most sensitive to their stuff (eat bugs, personal carbon budget, whatever insane crap) get bent out of shape, and are still on the fringes enough that they look like the ones who are "conspiracy theorists" (they often are) and make it easy to dismiss criticism as crazy, while out in the open they do their thing. Like I said, it's probably not intentional, but there is no countervailing force to prevent them from pushing their stuff, and plenty of upside, so they keep doing it.
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- lucumo 4y ago
  Could simply be false or misleading reporting. LifeSite doesn't seem to be a very reliable news site. According to Wikipedia: > LifeSiteNews (or simply LifeSite) is a Canadian Catholic conservative anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.
  - TylerE 4y ago
    It’s a favorite source of /r/conservative, which should really tell you all you need to know.
pigsty 4y ago
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- tptacek 4y ago
  Have you considered arguing with the other WEF critic on this thread who seems to believe the WEF is a front for global communism?
lucumo 4y ago
> "You will own nothing and you will be happy." This is not a goal and not a plan. It was a prediction, a possible scenario of where we could be headed. An extrapolation of current trends. Using the full quote would make it far clearer that that's what it was: > “You’ll own nothing. And you’ll be happy. What you want you’ll rent, and it’ll be delivered by drone.” From https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2T0 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2... > Danish politician Ida Auken, who wrote the prediction in question (here), said it was not a “utopia or dream of the future” but “a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse.”
- fullshark 4y ago
  Those crazy conspiracy theorists thinking "life has never been better" was a marker that this was a utopian vision. https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710 https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-ow...
  - lucumo 4y ago
    You should read past the headline. The article contains more quotes you can use! It's also a pretty dumb over-simplistic extrapolation of some current trends. But not an evil plot to change the world into her utopia.
    - fullshark 4y ago
      Did you read it? > All in all, it is a good life. Much better than the path we were on, where it became so clear that we could not continue with the same model of growth. We had all these terrible things happening: lifestyle diseases, climate change, the refugee crisis, environmental degradation, completely congested cities, water pollution, air pollution, social unrest and unemployment. We lost way too many people before we realised that we could do things differently.
      - lucumo 4y ago
tptacek 4y ago
People with strong opinions about the World Economic Forum tend not to know (let alone understand) what it is. It isn't the Stonecutter's Lodge; it's something closer to the TED Talks organization. It's random executives networking and trying to make themselves seem more important than they are. Fun fact: companies that participate in the WEF underperform the S&P.
- chrisco255 4y ago
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- TeeMassive 4y ago
  > it's something closer to the TED Talks This is blatantly not true. TED doesn't make official agreements with governments: https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2015/01/canada-joins-wef-as-founding-partner-global-challenge-food-security-agriculture.html https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2015/01/canada-joins-w... https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/recgen/cpc-pac/2021/vol3/ds6/index-eng.html https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/recgen/cpc-pac/2021/vol3/ds6/i... https://ktdi.org/ https://ktdi.org/ > It's random executives networking and trying to make themselves seem more important than they are. And government officials. Schwab bragged about "infiltrating" governments around the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHmy9AQLBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHmy9AQLBA And when the government officials are asked about it they do not want to answer: https://summit.news/2022/02/21/video-canadian-mps-audio-feed-cut-when-he-asks-why-klaus-schwab-brags-about-having-infiltrated-parliament/ https://summit.news/2022/02/21/video-canadian-mps-audio-feed... > Fun fact: companies that participate in the WEF underperform the S&P That's irrelevant. What is worrying is that they are among the biggest and involved in all critical industries and have a quasi monopoly on their industries and as a whole. By collaborating together over political goals they form a plutocratic autocracy.
  - tptacek 4y ago
    The links you've pasted here make my case for me. Canada sponsored a series of TED talks, for a pittance relative to what they send to other NGOs. Therefore: the WEF has "infiltrated" governments around the world. This is lizard people stuff. Important people show up at Davos because it's a networking event and an easy way to get publicity. Important people have attended TED talks, too. That doesn't mean TED is a shadowy extragovernmental puppetmaster.
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agnos 4y ago

This is what I don't understand. How is this and other public WEF content not guaranteed bad press/fuel for social unrest? Or is that the intent?

walterbell 4y ago
Trial/trolling balloons drive engagement and data analytics for group/individual sentiment analysis and message calibration.
- tptacek 4y ago
  They're just a few tens of thousands of ops away from deploying the HypnoDrones.
  - walterbell 4y ago
    Social media is cheaper, faster and widely used, https://www.statista.com/statistics/539395/smartphone-penetration-worldwide-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/539395/smartphone-penetr...
at_a_remove 4y ago
I don't think they care. They can just shrug and say "Misinformation" and "You need to stop letting the alt-right scare you." And ten years later when you're squeezing the last of the bug-paste ("New Crunchy style!") out of your pre-third shift meal supplement packet and reading on the telescreen how the chocolate ration has been increased to five grams, well, you won't want to do anything rebellious in your safe little pod, lest your social credit scores sink enough that Amaflix and Marv-Ney deplatform your connection, and your options are twiddling your thumbs hoping another gig job makes itself available or you're reduced to leaving your head in the Satisfaction Tracker for one Hertz sampling of "engagement" as a nameless studio shows you pre-vis dumped out of MediaGPT-7 in between ads. Between your worries, your woes, and the relentless twenty smash cuts per second delivery of anything, your attention will be so atomized you won't be able to think back to how it all started.
- noughtme 4y ago
  > Amaflix and Marv-Ney What's Marv-Ney?
  - htkibar 4y ago
    MARV-el, dis-NEY
  - 20after4 4y ago
    Marvel + Disney?
version_five 4y ago
Maybe I'm reading too much into it - whether by design or not, their public statements are serving them very well. They have a strong following (no doubt here, and on LinkedIn all the time I see people "liking" the pap they post), so they are playing to their base. Second, if your enemy had a choleric temper, antagonize him. The people most sensitive to their stuff (eat bugs, personal carbon budget, whatever insane crap) get bent out of shape, and are still on the fringes enough that they look like the ones who are "conspiracy theorists" (they often are) and make it easy to dismiss criticism as crazy, while out in the open they do their thing. Like I said, it's probably not intentional, but there is no countervailing force to prevent them from pushing their stuff, and plenty of upside, so they keep doing it.
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lucumo 4y ago
Could simply be false or misleading reporting. LifeSite doesn't seem to be a very reliable news site. According to Wikipedia: > LifeSiteNews (or simply LifeSite) is a Canadian Catholic conservative anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.
- TylerE 4y ago
  It’s a favorite source of /r/conservative, which should really tell you all you need to know.

pigsty 4y ago

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tptacek 4y ago
Have you considered arguing with the other WEF critic on this thread who seems to believe the WEF is a front for global communism?

lucumo 4y ago

> "You will own nothing and you will be happy." This is not a goal and not a plan. It was a prediction, a possible scenario of where we could be headed. An extrapolation of current trends. Using the full quote would make it far clearer that that's what it was: > “You’ll own nothing. And you’ll be happy. What you want you’ll rent, and it’ll be delivered by drone.” From https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2T0 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2... > Danish politician Ida Auken, who wrote the prediction in question (here), said it was not a “utopia or dream of the future” but “a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse.”

fullshark 4y ago
Those crazy conspiracy theorists thinking "life has never been better" was a marker that this was a utopian vision. https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710 https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-ow...
- lucumo 4y ago
  You should read past the headline. The article contains more quotes you can use! It's also a pretty dumb over-simplistic extrapolation of some current trends. But not an evil plot to change the world into her utopia.
  - fullshark 4y ago
    Did you read it? > All in all, it is a good life. Much better than the path we were on, where it became so clear that we could not continue with the same model of growth. We had all these terrible things happening: lifestyle diseases, climate change, the refugee crisis, environmental degradation, completely congested cities, water pollution, air pollution, social unrest and unemployment. We lost way too many people before we realised that we could do things differently.
    - lucumo 4y ago

tptacek 4y ago

People with strong opinions about the World Economic Forum tend not to know (let alone understand) what it is. It isn't the Stonecutter's Lodge; it's something closer to the TED Talks organization. It's random executives networking and trying to make themselves seem more important than they are. Fun fact: companies that participate in the WEF underperform the S&P.

chrisco255 4y ago
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TeeMassive 4y ago
> it's something closer to the TED Talks This is blatantly not true. TED doesn't make official agreements with governments: https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2015/01/canada-joins-wef-as-founding-partner-global-challenge-food-security-agriculture.html https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2015/01/canada-joins-w... https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/recgen/cpc-pac/2021/vol3/ds6/index-eng.html https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/recgen/cpc-pac/2021/vol3/ds6/i... https://ktdi.org/ https://ktdi.org/ > It's random executives networking and trying to make themselves seem more important than they are. And government officials. Schwab bragged about "infiltrating" governments around the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHmy9AQLBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHmy9AQLBA And when the government officials are asked about it they do not want to answer: https://summit.news/2022/02/21/video-canadian-mps-audio-feed-cut-when-he-asks-why-klaus-schwab-brags-about-having-infiltrated-parliament/ https://summit.news/2022/02/21/video-canadian-mps-audio-feed... > Fun fact: companies that participate in the WEF underperform the S&P That's irrelevant. What is worrying is that they are among the biggest and involved in all critical industries and have a quasi monopoly on their industries and as a whole. By collaborating together over political goals they form a plutocratic autocracy.
- tptacek 4y ago
  The links you've pasted here make my case for me. Canada sponsored a series of TED talks, for a pittance relative to what they send to other NGOs. Therefore: the WEF has "infiltrated" governments around the world. This is lizard people stuff. Important people show up at Davos because it's a networking event and an easy way to get publicity. Important people have attended TED talks, too. That doesn't mean TED is a shadowy extragovernmental puppetmaster.

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