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As the article notes, US and Mex have bilateral extradition so it’s doubtful she intended to stay there to escape prison. She was likely going on to another cou

As the article notes, US and Mex have bilateral extradition so it’s doubtful she intended to stay there to escape prison. She was likely going on to another country after that.

chasil 4y ago
Wouldn't it be easier to charter a boat from Puerto Rico to Venezuela?
- notch656c 4y ago
  I am continually baffled just how utterly stupid these rich people are. Who in their right mind enters a flight manifest, let alone an international one, as a high profile wanted person.
  - paulpauper 4y ago
    they got rich through connections, they are not genuinely smart. go figure.
  - jjulius 4y ago
    >I am continually baffled just how utterly stupid these rich people are. Rich != Smart
  - radicaldreamer 4y ago
    Maybe it's just a distraction for the real plan: off to Hong Kong on a cargo ship, through to Mexico in a car trunk, or simply living with an assumed identity after major plastic surgery. A decoy could take the trip to Mexico for you...
prepend 4y ago
First you go to Mexico. Then you go somewhere without extradition. Although if I had high resources and was fleeing justice, I probably wouldn’t buy a ticket ahead of time. If anything I would book some domestic travel to be on flight manifests.
- akiselev 4y ago
  There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis. There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the world, probably), but the vast majority won't bat an eye to throwing her back to the US based LEO wolves.
  - trevyn 4y ago
    Something I've always sort of wondered: If you live on a yacht in international waters, will the US Navy come and pick you up? For someone of Ms. Holmes' level of GTA stars.
    - dylan604 4y ago
      that's similar to the people that tried to form a country on the deep sea platforms. a submarine launched torpedo would render the country no longer effective while completely invisible to any prying eyes. or a team of underwater welders cut the legs out from under it. again completely hidden from view. "I don't know what happened. One day it was there. The next it was gone!"
    - ineedasername 4y ago
      What would Holmes’ GTA star level be? I mean, IRL in terms of absolute scale of crime maybe 2/5, but in-game it’s usually more violent activity only that gets stars. This needs further discussion, maybe with some consultation from Rockstar.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    I think it is less about not having an extradition treaty as it is just living in a country that doesn't really actively search for people needing extradition. as long as you have good paperwork for wherever you live and stay the hell off the radar of local authorities, you could probably do okay in lots of central/south american countries. avoid europe and all of their nanny cams with facial recognition. avoid getting online with your old persona's credentials and visiting old family/friends. could probably do pretty well
radicaldreamer 4y ago
Mexico City > Dubai on a very comfortable Emirates flight
jjulius 4y ago
The article further notes: >Holmes’ partner, William Evans, also bought a one-way ticket “and did not return until approximately six weeks later, returning from a different continent,” prosecutors said.

As the article notes, US and Mex have bilateral extradition so it’s doubtful she intended to stay there to escape prison. She was likely going on to another country after that.

chasil 4y ago

Wouldn't it be easier to charter a boat from Puerto Rico to Venezuela?

notch656c 4y ago
I am continually baffled just how utterly stupid these rich people are. Who in their right mind enters a flight manifest, let alone an international one, as a high profile wanted person.
- paulpauper 4y ago
  they got rich through connections, they are not genuinely smart. go figure.
- jjulius 4y ago
  >I am continually baffled just how utterly stupid these rich people are. Rich != Smart
- radicaldreamer 4y ago
  Maybe it's just a distraction for the real plan: off to Hong Kong on a cargo ship, through to Mexico in a car trunk, or simply living with an assumed identity after major plastic surgery. A decoy could take the trip to Mexico for you...

prepend 4y ago

First you go to Mexico. Then you go somewhere without extradition. Although if I had high resources and was fleeing justice, I probably wouldn’t buy a ticket ahead of time. If anything I would book some domestic travel to be on flight manifests.

akiselev 4y ago
There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis. There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the world, probably), but the vast majority won't bat an eye to throwing her back to the US based LEO wolves.
- trevyn 4y ago
  Something I've always sort of wondered: If you live on a yacht in international waters, will the US Navy come and pick you up? For someone of Ms. Holmes' level of GTA stars.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    that's similar to the people that tried to form a country on the deep sea platforms. a submarine launched torpedo would render the country no longer effective while completely invisible to any prying eyes. or a team of underwater welders cut the legs out from under it. again completely hidden from view. "I don't know what happened. One day it was there. The next it was gone!"
  - ineedasername 4y ago
    What would Holmes’ GTA star level be? I mean, IRL in terms of absolute scale of crime maybe 2/5, but in-game it’s usually more violent activity only that gets stars. This needs further discussion, maybe with some consultation from Rockstar.
- dylan604 4y ago
  I think it is less about not having an extradition treaty as it is just living in a country that doesn't really actively search for people needing extradition. as long as you have good paperwork for wherever you live and stay the hell off the radar of local authorities, you could probably do okay in lots of central/south american countries. avoid europe and all of their nanny cams with facial recognition. avoid getting online with your old persona's credentials and visiting old family/friends. could probably do pretty well

radicaldreamer 4y ago

Mexico City > Dubai on a very comfortable Emirates flight

jjulius 4y ago

The article further notes: >Holmes’ partner, William Evans, also bought a one-way ticket “and did not return until approximately six weeks later, returning from a different continent,” prosecutors said.