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I also do not think Musk understands just who the primary userbase on many of these 3rd party apps were -- many of those pesky advertisers/brands that he seems

I also do not think Musk understands just who the primary userbase on many of these 3rd party apps were -- many of those pesky advertisers/brands that he seems to be both courting and at war with exclusively use api apps for tracking posting/responding and integrations.

karmelapple 4y ago
Those aren't the same APIs that were turned off for third party clients though, correct?
- raverbashing 4y ago
  Who knows? Probably someone who got fired on a previous round, that is. Disabling APIs won't win you any friends
- _rs 4y ago
  My understanding is they didn't turn off the APIs, they disabled API keys for any large clients
cmelbye 4y ago
Which 3rd party apps specifically were used by marketers and are now banned?
- wstuartcl 4y ago
  Having worked with many PR/Marketing/Media brand teams I do not know of one group that utilized twitter client in any of their workflows -- they all used a mix of third party clients for reading and other integrations/clients for posting and managing conversations and ad work. Sure much of the API surface area for latter still works but there was a goodly portion of impacted folks on these clients that were the same people that were on the same teams that impact ad spend and brand usage.
  - graublau 4y ago
    I've never seen a PR/Marketing tweet from any of the bespoke artisanal apps (tweetbot, twitterific etc) Hootsuite, buffer are web apps, not for "ride or die" iOS nerds
seydor 4y ago
Interesting, do instgram and facebook etc allow third party clients?
- pvarangot 4y ago
  No, but unlike Twitter their advertiser tools are at least halfway decent.
- erk__ 4y ago
  One of the tools used is Buffer [0], and they seem to support both Instagram and Facebook, and it seems that they are going to continue with Twitter as well. [0]: https://buffer.com https://buffer.com Note: They seem to support "Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, LinkedIn, and Google Business Profile"
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Buffer's not a third-party client (in the sense of Tweetbot etc.), though. You can't consume or publish to a personal Facebook profile or an individual Instagram account; it's restricted to Facebook Business Pages, Groups, and Instagram Business accounts. It does compete with the Meta Business Suite, though.
  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    Buffer's support for non-business Instagram is "set a reminder for you to post by hand" because Instagram removed scheduled posting ability a good long while back. I suspect their non-business Facebook support is similar. I know I was a heavy user until (uh) 5? years ago when Instagram and Facebook posting was nerfed into uselessness.
erk__ 4y ago
One of the big ones Buffer [0] do not believe that they will be impacted this may not be an issue [1] [0]: https://buffer.com https://buffer.com [1]: https://twitter.com/buffer/status/1616418191718207488 https://twitter.com/buffer/status/1616418191718207488
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  It would appear that Elon understands his paying customer's after all. Cynical interpretation would be that he just made Twitter API access more scarce and therefore valuable. Still, mine is just a guess. edit: Come to think of it, didn't FB eventually moved from super open API to.. friend and family model?
  - w0m 4y ago
    IIRC, FB was originally public-first before (lawsuits). Not API, just default privacy settings.

karmelapple 4y ago

Those aren't the same APIs that were turned off for third party clients though, correct?

raverbashing 4y ago
Who knows? Probably someone who got fired on a previous round, that is. Disabling APIs won't win you any friends
_rs 4y ago
My understanding is they didn't turn off the APIs, they disabled API keys for any large clients

cmelbye 4y ago

Which 3rd party apps specifically were used by marketers and are now banned?

wstuartcl 4y ago
Having worked with many PR/Marketing/Media brand teams I do not know of one group that utilized twitter client in any of their workflows -- they all used a mix of third party clients for reading and other integrations/clients for posting and managing conversations and ad work. Sure much of the API surface area for latter still works but there was a goodly portion of impacted folks on these clients that were the same people that were on the same teams that impact ad spend and brand usage.
- graublau 4y ago
  I've never seen a PR/Marketing tweet from any of the bespoke artisanal apps (tweetbot, twitterific etc) Hootsuite, buffer are web apps, not for "ride or die" iOS nerds

seydor 4y ago

Interesting, do instgram and facebook etc allow third party clients?

pvarangot 4y ago
No, but unlike Twitter their advertiser tools are at least halfway decent.
erk__ 4y ago
One of the tools used is Buffer [0], and they seem to support both Instagram and Facebook, and it seems that they are going to continue with Twitter as well. [0]: https://buffer.com https://buffer.com Note: They seem to support "Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, LinkedIn, and Google Business Profile"
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Buffer's not a third-party client (in the sense of Tweetbot etc.), though. You can't consume or publish to a personal Facebook profile or an individual Instagram account; it's restricted to Facebook Business Pages, Groups, and Instagram Business accounts. It does compete with the Meta Business Suite, though.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  Buffer's support for non-business Instagram is "set a reminder for you to post by hand" because Instagram removed scheduled posting ability a good long while back. I suspect their non-business Facebook support is similar. I know I was a heavy user until (uh) 5? years ago when Instagram and Facebook posting was nerfed into uselessness.

erk__ 4y ago

One of the big ones Buffer [0] do not believe that they will be impacted this may not be an issue [1] [0]: https://buffer.com https://buffer.com [1]: https://twitter.com/buffer/status/1616418191718207488 https://twitter.com/buffer/status/1616418191718207488

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
It would appear that Elon understands his paying customer's after all. Cynical interpretation would be that he just made Twitter API access more scarce and therefore valuable. Still, mine is just a guess. edit: Come to think of it, didn't FB eventually moved from super open API to.. friend and family model?
- w0m 4y ago
  IIRC, FB was originally public-first before (lawsuits). Not API, just default privacy settings.