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> Does he really believe this? I believe it: the Google of 2008 would have been completely buried by the flood of ChatGPT-generated bullshit SEO spam. What the

> Does he really believe this? I believe it: the Google of 2008 would have been completely buried by the flood of ChatGPT-generated bullshit SEO spam. What they have today is the best version of Google to date, so it's still floating, not just as high as it once was in less adversarial times.

ok123456 4y ago
Really? Often, the top links are AI generated spam that, while somewhat relevant to whatever you searched for, sounds like it was written by a high school student trying to pad the word count for a few pages.
- sangnoir 4y ago
  It doesn't sound like you're disagreeing.
- htag 4y ago
  Yes, Google search results are worse than they were in it's height. Google front page is a whale of a target. At no point has there been more sophisticated attacks for people trying to hit front page with low-quality content. The position you parent comment took is that Google of today is better at resisting those attacks, and no one version of Google would provide as good results on today's internet. I believe Google is fundamentally failing at it's mission of "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful" and it's earlier value of "Don't be evil". That's not to say that Google Search isn't better at searching today's internet than any other iteration of Google Search would have been.
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    >and it's earlier value of "Don't be evil". What do you mean? It's still part of their current values. https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
- red-iron-pine 4y ago
  esp. for anything relatively technical. the pages look like they copied and pasted someone else's documentation together. at this point it's almost always ignore the first 3 hits and go straight to stackoverflow or reddit, or something that's plainly obviously related like python.org documentation.
  - lancesells 4y ago
    I've noticed so many domain names are spammy with associated subdomain spam. I'm impressed they manage to get to the front page of Google.
neuronic 4y ago
Maybe this is confirmation bias since I have seen a multitude of blogs and threads popping up around this topic but I have clicked the "Page 2" button on Google multiple times this month. I don't think I have to add anything to make that an argument.

ok123456 4y ago

Really? Often, the top links are AI generated spam that, while somewhat relevant to whatever you searched for, sounds like it was written by a high school student trying to pad the word count for a few pages.

sangnoir 4y ago
It doesn't sound like you're disagreeing.
htag 4y ago
Yes, Google search results are worse than they were in it's height. Google front page is a whale of a target. At no point has there been more sophisticated attacks for people trying to hit front page with low-quality content. The position you parent comment took is that Google of today is better at resisting those attacks, and no one version of Google would provide as good results on today's internet. I believe Google is fundamentally failing at it's mission of "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful" and it's earlier value of "Don't be evil". That's not to say that Google Search isn't better at searching today's internet than any other iteration of Google Search would have been.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  >and it's earlier value of "Don't be evil". What do you mean? It's still part of their current values. https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
red-iron-pine 4y ago
esp. for anything relatively technical. the pages look like they copied and pasted someone else's documentation together. at this point it's almost always ignore the first 3 hits and go straight to stackoverflow or reddit, or something that's plainly obviously related like python.org documentation.
- lancesells 4y ago
  I've noticed so many domain names are spammy with associated subdomain spam. I'm impressed they manage to get to the front page of Google.

neuronic 4y ago

Maybe this is confirmation bias since I have seen a multitude of blogs and threads popping up around this topic but I have clicked the "Page 2" button on Google multiple times this month. I don't think I have to add anything to make that an argument.