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I don’t understand why should people “leave that shit at home”? I’m not defending the parent example of a friend being progressive and criticizing others while

by sahila 4y ago

I don’t understand why should people “leave that shit at home”? I’m not defending the parent example of a friend being progressive and criticizing others while engaging in similar wasteful behavior, but if you really believe in something, doesn’t it hurt to see the opposite? I suppose most people’s views in the US are superficial and team based in which case then I agree.

weakfortress 4y ago
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cheschire 4y ago
> doesn't it hurt to see the opposite This is the point. Leave that shit at home so the "other" folks don't have to see your shit. And if they agree to this social construct then you will not have to see their shit either.
- sahila 4y ago
  Right, but I guess the presumption is you’re the arbiter of what shit is worth leaving at home versus not. I assume if a known pedophile came to a party, others might say something and you’d be okay with that. Not trying to raise a big point but I just don’t think it’s easy for everyone else to leave things they care about at home as some others. The more passionate, the harder it is.
nescioquid 4y ago
I would agree to "leave that shit at home" insofar as it means "leave that shit at home until it is mature enough to be taken out in public". If you can discuss your opinions without giving or taking offense, then fine. I certainly haven't reached that level of maturity, so it is an ideal for me. > ... but if you really believe in something... Let's be clear whether this means you feel a need to persuade the person you're sharing your opinion with. If so, have you given serious thought about how to persuade? What is more important here to you: sharing your opinion or bringing others to adopt it?
ryandrake 4y ago
I think it's the whole etiquette of "Don't discuss religion or politics in polite company." If you really passionately believe in some political figure or religious thing, that's great. Other people don't, and I'm hosting a party for everyone to have fun, not just for believers. So, for the sake of getting along, leave it behind. Surely even passionate people can avoid talking about these topics for the mere 2 or so hours they spend trying to have fun! I nearly had to throw someone out of a pool party being hosted for a bunch of 10 year old kids. The kids were all having a blast, but Mister Politics just couldn't stop talking about and inserting his political views. In this particular case I was in agreement with him, but it doesn't matter. This shit doesn't belong at an event that's supposed to be fun.
- sahila 4y ago
  I agree with you in spirit but I’ve found as I’ve gotten older, I actually have more fun doing things with people whose life views I agree with. It’s hard to bury feelings if someone else is against immigrants (my parents are one), are against techies (that’s me!), anti-abortion, and many other current things I care about. I’m not the type to raise a stink but I usually won’t have as much fun there either. I guess it’s more that my desire to avoid unpleasantries and making a ruckus than leaving my feelings at home.
  - wkat4242 4y ago
    Why are you against techies? What's so wrong with us? :'(
    - sahila 4y ago
      Nothing wrong with us, we rock :). I guess I’ve heard comments about our wealth inequality, gentrification, and mobility that not all careers have but there’s no easy solve.

by sahila 4y ago

weakfortress 4y ago

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cheschire 4y ago

> doesn't it hurt to see the opposite This is the point. Leave that shit at home so the "other" folks don't have to see your shit. And if they agree to this social construct then you will not have to see their shit either.

sahila 4y ago
Right, but I guess the presumption is you’re the arbiter of what shit is worth leaving at home versus not. I assume if a known pedophile came to a party, others might say something and you’d be okay with that. Not trying to raise a big point but I just don’t think it’s easy for everyone else to leave things they care about at home as some others. The more passionate, the harder it is.

nescioquid 4y ago

I would agree to "leave that shit at home" insofar as it means "leave that shit at home until it is mature enough to be taken out in public". If you can discuss your opinions without giving or taking offense, then fine. I certainly haven't reached that level of maturity, so it is an ideal for me. > ... but if you really believe in something... Let's be clear whether this means you feel a need to persuade the person you're sharing your opinion with. If so, have you given serious thought about how to persuade? What is more important here to you: sharing your opinion or bringing others to adopt it?

ryandrake 4y ago

I think it's the whole etiquette of "Don't discuss religion or politics in polite company." If you really passionately believe in some political figure or religious thing, that's great. Other people don't, and I'm hosting a party for everyone to have fun, not just for believers. So, for the sake of getting along, leave it behind. Surely even passionate people can avoid talking about these topics for the mere 2 or so hours they spend trying to have fun! I nearly had to throw someone out of a pool party being hosted for a bunch of 10 year old kids. The kids were all having a blast, but Mister Politics just couldn't stop talking about and inserting his political views. In this particular case I was in agreement with him, but it doesn't matter. This shit doesn't belong at an event that's supposed to be fun.

sahila 4y ago
I agree with you in spirit but I’ve found as I’ve gotten older, I actually have more fun doing things with people whose life views I agree with. It’s hard to bury feelings if someone else is against immigrants (my parents are one), are against techies (that’s me!), anti-abortion, and many other current things I care about. I’m not the type to raise a stink but I usually won’t have as much fun there either. I guess it’s more that my desire to avoid unpleasantries and making a ruckus than leaving my feelings at home.
- wkat4242 4y ago
  Why are you against techies? What's so wrong with us? :'(
  - sahila 4y ago
    Nothing wrong with us, we rock :). I guess I’ve heard comments about our wealth inequality, gentrification, and mobility that not all careers have but there’s no easy solve.