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The idea that spraying someone with water is some sort of crime against humanity is a modern fallacy. I've been homeless, in SF. It's exceedingly easy to not r

by jakear 4y ago

The idea that spraying someone with water is some sort of crime against humanity is a modern fallacy. I've been homeless, in SF. It's exceedingly easy to not ruffle any feathers when doing so, perhaps the easiest there of anywhere else I've been. This woman was going out of her way to be a menace to civil society and got what she deserved. The idea that "getting wet" is some high crime against a class of people who quite literally eat, drink, and sleep in the rain is laughable. Before you shower me with 'oh the humanity of it all' responses, have you been homeless? If you had, you'd likely agree with me (as many homeless people do). These bums give hobos a bad name, the fewer of them the better. Celebrate ethical homelessness, chastise whatever this is.

John23832 4y ago
Whether or not spraying someone with water in an attempt to move them is battery has nothing to do with their housing status. So frankly, whether you've been homeless or not does not matter. Sorry that happened to you. https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/242/ https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/242/
- jakear 4y ago
  Frankly, whatever laws politicians in their ivory towers write to dictate what the State's Officers should do in a given circumstance hold 0 bias in my judgement of what the Right thing to do in that circumstance would be. You seem to be really badgering the idea "wait for the State to intervene, they'll do the Right Thing". I'll give an anecdote to counter that. The one person who really wronged me in all my time as a hobo was a State Official. He decided I had spent too long where I was (<24 hours) and in order to get me to leave he took my only pair of boots, broke my only lamp, and for good measure stole my binoculars too. That's a wrong I would not wish upon anyone, even the bums. Do you have any idea how much harder shit is when you have no shoes? Every store you go in will ask you to leave. As your feet grow dirtier their insistence grows stronger. Fuck that guy. I was soaking wet for unrelated reasons the night prior to that (among many, many others), the collective discomfort of all those soaking hours doesn't hold a candle to what that State Official did to me. For the homeless especially, but also everyone else (besides billionaires perhaps): the State isn't your friend; their solutions won't help you; you want a problem solved: solve it yourself.

by jakear 4y ago

John23832 4y ago

Whether or not spraying someone with water in an attempt to move them is battery has nothing to do with their housing status. So frankly, whether you've been homeless or not does not matter. Sorry that happened to you. https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/242/ https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/242/

jakear 4y ago
Frankly, whatever laws politicians in their ivory towers write to dictate what the State's Officers should do in a given circumstance hold 0 bias in my judgement of what the Right thing to do in that circumstance would be. You seem to be really badgering the idea "wait for the State to intervene, they'll do the Right Thing". I'll give an anecdote to counter that. The one person who really wronged me in all my time as a hobo was a State Official. He decided I had spent too long where I was (<24 hours) and in order to get me to leave he took my only pair of boots, broke my only lamp, and for good measure stole my binoculars too. That's a wrong I would not wish upon anyone, even the bums. Do you have any idea how much harder shit is when you have no shoes? Every store you go in will ask you to leave. As your feet grow dirtier their insistence grows stronger. Fuck that guy. I was soaking wet for unrelated reasons the night prior to that (among many, many others), the collective discomfort of all those soaking hours doesn't hold a candle to what that State Official did to me. For the homeless especially, but also everyone else (besides billionaires perhaps): the State isn't your friend; their solutions won't help you; you want a problem solved: solve it yourself.