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> If this guy is going to end up losing his business because of this woman, and he has already exhausted the appropriate legal/government avenues for solving th

> If this guy is going to end up losing his business because of this woman, and he has already exhausted the appropriate legal/government avenues for solving this issue, what should he do? Not commit misdemeanor battery.

idopmstuff 4y ago
You're doing the same thing as others here - not providing any kind of a useful or coherent solution. It is very, very easy to say that someone shouldn't do something. Everyone gets that he shouldn't spray her with a hose. What is a better thing that he is practically able to do that has any reasonable chance of resolving this issue?
- tshaddox 4y ago
  > You're doing the same thing as others here - not providing any kind of a useful or coherent solution. For what exactly? I’m not proposing a solution for all societal problems or even all of his, of course. > Everyone gets that he shouldn't spray her with a hose. It doesn’t seem like you get that, given your next sentence: > What is a better thing that he is practically able to do that has any reasonable chance of resolving this issue? Literally not spraying her with a hose is a better thing to do than spraying her with a hose. That’s exactly what I’m saying.
  - idopmstuff 4y ago
    > For what exactly? I’m not providing a solution for all societal problems, of course. For the specific situation we're talking about - come on now, I think that's pretty apparent. > Literally not spray her with a hose is a better thing to do than spraying her with a hose. That’s exactly what I’m saying. You're ignoring the second half of the question, which I'll repeat here: "that has any reasonable chance of resolving this issue?" If the goal is to stop her from doing the things that she is doing, then you're incorrect. Not spraying her with a hose has absolutely no chance of resolving the issue. Spraying her with a hose does have a chance of resolving the issue. It's not a happy or positive solution, and you can debate the ethics of it all you want, but as a way to get her to leave him and his business alone, it is clearly better than doing nothing.
    - tshaddox 4y ago
      I really just don't understand this mode of discourse. I do not have a proposal for solving any major societal problems, nor should I be obligated to provide one in order to propose that not spraying someone with water is better than spraying someone with water.

idopmstuff 4y ago

You're doing the same thing as others here - not providing any kind of a useful or coherent solution. It is very, very easy to say that someone shouldn't do something. Everyone gets that he shouldn't spray her with a hose. What is a better thing that he is practically able to do that has any reasonable chance of resolving this issue?

tshaddox 4y ago
> You're doing the same thing as others here - not providing any kind of a useful or coherent solution. For what exactly? I’m not proposing a solution for all societal problems or even all of his, of course. > Everyone gets that he shouldn't spray her with a hose. It doesn’t seem like you get that, given your next sentence: > What is a better thing that he is practically able to do that has any reasonable chance of resolving this issue? Literally not spraying her with a hose is a better thing to do than spraying her with a hose. That’s exactly what I’m saying.
- idopmstuff 4y ago
  > For what exactly? I’m not providing a solution for all societal problems, of course. For the specific situation we're talking about - come on now, I think that's pretty apparent. > Literally not spray her with a hose is a better thing to do than spraying her with a hose. That’s exactly what I’m saying. You're ignoring the second half of the question, which I'll repeat here: "that has any reasonable chance of resolving this issue?" If the goal is to stop her from doing the things that she is doing, then you're incorrect. Not spraying her with a hose has absolutely no chance of resolving the issue. Spraying her with a hose does have a chance of resolving the issue. It's not a happy or positive solution, and you can debate the ethics of it all you want, but as a way to get her to leave him and his business alone, it is clearly better than doing nothing.
  - tshaddox 4y ago
    I really just don't understand this mode of discourse. I do not have a proposal for solving any major societal problems, nor should I be obligated to provide one in order to propose that not spraying someone with water is better than spraying someone with water.