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bamboozled 4y ago
Well, no one is forcing people to post this on HN either. If people posted well written articles backed by solid journalism and presented statistics and analysis about the cause of the majority of these lays offs then it would be interesting to read and intellectual, IMO it would fit in better with the "theme" of HN. I don't think these articles have a place on the "Hacker news", maybe in the financial review? Honestly, what's the motive for posting these things one after the other? Is it to help signal some type of financial meltdown, so we feel sympathetic and know "company x" is bad, I just don't really understand why it's interesting to read about or relevant to this community. Wayfair, like many of these firms, aggressively added staff during the pandemic to expand its warehouse operations and customer-service teams. It had 16,681 full-time equivalent employees as of the end of 2021, up from 12,100 at the end of 2018. Its customer-service staff roughly doubled over that period to about 4,900 people, according to company filings. So it's pretty clear to see what happened here, a furniture company hired like crazy to meet the surge in demand for WFH furniture and now, demand has slowed and doesn't really need so many people, is that a surprise ? I feel people must enjoy upvoting these titles because it's a bit dramatic, else there is nothing else interesting to read in that article.
- ethanbond 4y ago
  Usually people who are on an industry news site are trying to keep a pulse on the industry. Mass layoffs are an important part of that pulse and layoff after layoff after layoff makes it a bigger part of the story, not a smaller one. Downvote it and move on if you don’t like it.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    Wayfair is a furniture reseller, what industry are you referring too?
    - ethanbond 4y ago
      Wayfair has a several thousand person software engineering org, so: that one.
      - bamboozled 4y ago
        Honestly, many many many companies now have several thousand person "engineering" teams, or IT teams. Telcos, online retailers, banks and on and on.
    - kyawzazaw 4y ago
      Is Amazon a book seller only? This is so out of ignorance.

Nobody's forcing you to read them. Or... is someone forcing you to read them? Are you in need of help? Reply with an innocuous emoji if it's not safe to be direct.

bamboozled 4y ago

Well, no one is forcing people to post this on HN either. If people posted well written articles backed by solid journalism and presented statistics and analysis about the cause of the majority of these lays offs then it would be interesting to read and intellectual, IMO it would fit in better with the "theme" of HN. I don't think these articles have a place on the "Hacker news", maybe in the financial review? Honestly, what's the motive for posting these things one after the other? Is it to help signal some type of financial meltdown, so we feel sympathetic and know "company x" is bad, I just don't really understand why it's interesting to read about or relevant to this community. Wayfair, like many of these firms, aggressively added staff during the pandemic to expand its warehouse operations and customer-service teams. It had 16,681 full-time equivalent employees as of the end of 2021, up from 12,100 at the end of 2018. Its customer-service staff roughly doubled over that period to about 4,900 people, according to company filings. So it's pretty clear to see what happened here, a furniture company hired like crazy to meet the surge in demand for WFH furniture and now, demand has slowed and doesn't really need so many people, is that a surprise ? I feel people must enjoy upvoting these titles because it's a bit dramatic, else there is nothing else interesting to read in that article.

ethanbond 4y ago
Usually people who are on an industry news site are trying to keep a pulse on the industry. Mass layoffs are an important part of that pulse and layoff after layoff after layoff makes it a bigger part of the story, not a smaller one. Downvote it and move on if you don’t like it.
- bamboozled 4y ago
  Wayfair is a furniture reseller, what industry are you referring too?
  - ethanbond 4y ago
    Wayfair has a several thousand person software engineering org, so: that one.
    - bamboozled 4y ago
      Honestly, many many many companies now have several thousand person "engineering" teams, or IT teams. Telcos, online retailers, banks and on and on.
  - kyawzazaw 4y ago
    Is Amazon a book seller only? This is so out of ignorance.