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The author misses one advantage of UUIDs: if you’re working in high-throughput distributed systems, serial IDs create a bottleneck and single point of failure i

The author misses one advantage of UUIDs: if you’re working in high-throughput distributed systems, serial IDs create a bottleneck and single point of failure in the service handing out IDs. With UUIDs any service can generate an ID itself and tell downstream services about it in parallel—even if one of them is down, slow, or needs retrying.

abujazar 4y ago
This can also be achieved in distributed systems by having each node skip IDs equivalent to the number of nodes in the cluster. E.g. node 1 in a 5 node cluster assigns ids 1, 6, 11 and node 2 assigns 2, 7, 12 and so on.
- bob1029 4y ago
  True, but then you have to plan ahead quite a bit. The other advantage of UUIDs is in completely decoupled environments that need to be able to share entities with each other. In this situation, serialization of activity is not a concern at all - we simply wish to prevent collisions of keys across the way.
- remram 4y ago
  You can also hand out ranges. Instead of asking the system for one ID, you ask it for 1000 contiguous IDs, and you ask for another range when you run out. This will reduce the load on the ID-creating-system by 1000x (or your choice of number) and has the advantage that systems don't need to know how many peers they have. (beware of the herd though, if you don't persist it every system will come asking at startup)
cyclotron3k 4y ago
Another great advantage of UUIDs is that it can help prevent you shooting yourself in the foot when you accidentally join the wrong tables. E.g. `DELETE FROM users WHERE id IN (SELECT id FROM user_orders);`
Too 4y ago
This also enables treating inserts as upserts, allowing safe retries without risk of creating duplicates. Speaking of. Does pg have any mechanism to protect double creates while using auto increments? Is there any way to provide a request-id from the client?

abujazar 4y ago

This can also be achieved in distributed systems by having each node skip IDs equivalent to the number of nodes in the cluster. E.g. node 1 in a 5 node cluster assigns ids 1, 6, 11 and node 2 assigns 2, 7, 12 and so on.

bob1029 4y ago
True, but then you have to plan ahead quite a bit. The other advantage of UUIDs is in completely decoupled environments that need to be able to share entities with each other. In this situation, serialization of activity is not a concern at all - we simply wish to prevent collisions of keys across the way.
remram 4y ago
You can also hand out ranges. Instead of asking the system for one ID, you ask it for 1000 contiguous IDs, and you ask for another range when you run out. This will reduce the load on the ID-creating-system by 1000x (or your choice of number) and has the advantage that systems don't need to know how many peers they have. (beware of the herd though, if you don't persist it every system will come asking at startup)

cyclotron3k 4y ago

Another great advantage of UUIDs is that it can help prevent you shooting yourself in the foot when you accidentally join the wrong tables. E.g. `DELETE FROM users WHERE id IN (SELECT id FROM user_orders);`

Too 4y ago

This also enables treating inserts as upserts, allowing safe retries without risk of creating duplicates. Speaking of. Does pg have any mechanism to protect double creates while using auto increments? Is there any way to provide a request-id from the client?