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Having Google on your resume is not a good thing depending on who's reading it. Googlers generally need to be extensively re-trained on reality outside of compa

Having Google on your resume is not a good thing depending on who's reading it. Googlers generally need to be extensively re-trained on reality outside of companies that cargo-cult Google's practices, and I'll have some questions about the moral compass of anyone who shows up with Google on the resume.

bdavis__ 4y ago
The moral compass points to the money
hgsgm 4y ago
That tech stack concern and attitude only affects a small-poulation collection of startups. "Morally opposed to Google" affects a tiny sliver of professionals who boycott Google products or choose to use it despite allegedly being opposed to it.
- otikik 4y ago
  Oh, you would be surprised. I once met a bank director that would call Google “those hippies”. In his view Googlers where “not enough money-centered”.
notyourwork 4y ago
Now it’s bad to work with some of the brightest talent in the world? Come on…
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- itsyaboi 4y ago
  2012 Google? Sure, pretty good chance you're getting world class talent. 2023? Lmao not even close. Anyone with a heartbeat and memorized leets can receive an offer, and the offers aren't even particular competitive.
cbarrick 4y ago
> I'll have some questions about the moral compass of anyone who shows up with Google on the resume. What about former Microsoft employees? Amazon employees? Is big tech an ethical issue for you? Or is it just Google?
- madamelic 4y ago
  Not an ethical issue, but a workstyle question. If you go from Google or similarly large company to a small startup, there's a radically different reality and workstyle required. Any time I see someone with big company experience especially their immediately previous role, it's an orange flag. I know to dig into why a startup and whether they are willing to "repent" their previous ways. BigCo employees are much more likely to call unnecessary whole team meetings, unnecessarily drag out feature planning, drag their feet on getting MVPs out in favor of a entirely complete solution, propose doing things "the way <x> does it" and it's like "... cool, we don't have the resources and headcount to support that really." With that said, generally these people have a much deeper knowledge of their particular stack, are valuable to have as long as you can harness them correctly and direct their energies towards much later in the startup.
  - foogazi 4y ago
    > If you go from Google or similarly large company to a small startup, there's a radically different reality and workstyle required. This assumes they were always at G or other big co
- tannhaeuser 4y ago
  I guess the problem for affected soon-Xooglers is more like, they've been laid off hence could be seen as underperformers. Moreover, they hit the marketplace in quantities, which makes for a bad negotiation position. Also, I'm wondering if top talent at Google not laid off this time around might soon look elsewhere and leave the sinking ship before it's too late - after all, Google hasn't really diversified despite lots and lots of investment and it's not clear at all top coders are really needed to keep a maturing business going (or are actually still working on eg Search or other key tech considering its demise) over the last 5+ years).
dachryn 4y ago
on the ethical side, I'll pick an ex-googler over microsoft, meta, amazon, IBM, Snap anyday. Ex-Microsoft people and ex-accenture people are never setting foot again in our organisation
- foogazi 4y ago
  They are just people like you
- rdmreader3319 4y ago
  One of my most talented colleague worked at Microsoft in his previous job. My worst experience was with a HR from Twitter, with all the political views and speeches from California, it was awful. She killed the spirit of the company in less than a year.
- nullhash 4y ago
  > Ex-Microsoft people and ex-accenture people are never setting food again in our organization May I ask why you this is the case?
- seti0Cha 4y ago
  I have to wonder what your own resume looks like that you maintain such a large blacklist. I can't help but think that a great many corporations won't live up to your standards.

bdavis__ 4y ago

The moral compass points to the money

hgsgm 4y ago

That tech stack concern and attitude only affects a small-poulation collection of startups. "Morally opposed to Google" affects a tiny sliver of professionals who boycott Google products or choose to use it despite allegedly being opposed to it.

otikik 4y ago
Oh, you would be surprised. I once met a bank director that would call Google “those hippies”. In his view Googlers where “not enough money-centered”.

notyourwork 4y ago

Now it’s bad to work with some of the brightest talent in the world? Come on…

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itsyaboi 4y ago
2012 Google? Sure, pretty good chance you're getting world class talent. 2023? Lmao not even close. Anyone with a heartbeat and memorized leets can receive an offer, and the offers aren't even particular competitive.

cbarrick 4y ago

> I'll have some questions about the moral compass of anyone who shows up with Google on the resume. What about former Microsoft employees? Amazon employees? Is big tech an ethical issue for you? Or is it just Google?

madamelic 4y ago
Not an ethical issue, but a workstyle question. If you go from Google or similarly large company to a small startup, there's a radically different reality and workstyle required. Any time I see someone with big company experience especially their immediately previous role, it's an orange flag. I know to dig into why a startup and whether they are willing to "repent" their previous ways. BigCo employees are much more likely to call unnecessary whole team meetings, unnecessarily drag out feature planning, drag their feet on getting MVPs out in favor of a entirely complete solution, propose doing things "the way <x> does it" and it's like "... cool, we don't have the resources and headcount to support that really." With that said, generally these people have a much deeper knowledge of their particular stack, are valuable to have as long as you can harness them correctly and direct their energies towards much later in the startup.
- foogazi 4y ago
  > If you go from Google or similarly large company to a small startup, there's a radically different reality and workstyle required. This assumes they were always at G or other big co
tannhaeuser 4y ago
I guess the problem for affected soon-Xooglers is more like, they've been laid off hence could be seen as underperformers. Moreover, they hit the marketplace in quantities, which makes for a bad negotiation position. Also, I'm wondering if top talent at Google not laid off this time around might soon look elsewhere and leave the sinking ship before it's too late - after all, Google hasn't really diversified despite lots and lots of investment and it's not clear at all top coders are really needed to keep a maturing business going (or are actually still working on eg Search or other key tech considering its demise) over the last 5+ years).

dachryn 4y ago

on the ethical side, I'll pick an ex-googler over microsoft, meta, amazon, IBM, Snap anyday. Ex-Microsoft people and ex-accenture people are never setting foot again in our organisation

foogazi 4y ago
They are just people like you
rdmreader3319 4y ago
One of my most talented colleague worked at Microsoft in his previous job. My worst experience was with a HR from Twitter, with all the political views and speeches from California, it was awful. She killed the spirit of the company in less than a year.
nullhash 4y ago
> Ex-Microsoft people and ex-accenture people are never setting food again in our organization May I ask why you this is the case?
seti0Cha 4y ago
I have to wonder what your own resume looks like that you maintain such a large blacklist. I can't help but think that a great many corporations won't live up to your standards.