3 ms·

Some of these are Nvidia issues. HDR and TB networking are valid, I forgot about HDR since my monitor is so bad at it that it was a must turn off feature that a

Some of these are Nvidia issues. HDR and TB networking are valid, I forgot about HDR since my monitor is so bad at it that it was a must turn off feature that actively ruins the experience rather than enhance it. For image based installs, it is possible to customize distro installers. Cubic is a tool to do so for Ubuntu/Debian based distros for example. And with NixOS or Guix you can do some pretty crazy stuff which don't have any compliment in the Windows world.

parker_mountain 4y ago
> Some of these are Nvidia issues As unfair as it seems, they are desktop linux issues, not Nvidia issues. If your OS does not work with the most popular discrete graphics solution, it's a "you" problem. Like I said, completely unfair :) Speaking of which, the windows graphics subsystem is light years ahead of anything on the linux desktop. It can handle a driver AND card kernel crash, restart the card, and your system keeps running. It's actually very impressive. > Cubic That is installing with a disk image, which is a different thing than an image based install (Windows DISM). > NixOS or Guix This is much closer to the reproducible install mechanism windows has, although still has some key deficiencies (and key benefits that windows doesn't have!). I think this is the future, but IME is not completely ready for casual desktop use.
- goosedragons 4y ago
  Modern MacOS has zero support for Nvidia even in their $6000+ desktop with PCIe slots but nobody says shit like "it's not ready for prime time". I don't think it's fair to penalize Linux for Nvidia being shoddy at drivers and not playing ball.
  - parker_mountain 4y ago
    If you say you support PCs, and your support for the most common configurations is lacking, then it's your problem. If I owe the bank $1000, it's my problem. If I owe the bank $1,000,000,000, then it's their problem. Apple is a terrible example to use. Apple does not play that game, it's very clear going in that you're buying more of an appliance. Also, that $6000+ desktop is literally the last of their lineup on Intel and is clearly on its way out - it will probably be replaced by something without PCIe. Not saying if that's good or bad, just that it's Apple. Personally, I think it's quite bad, though...

parker_mountain 4y ago

> Some of these are Nvidia issues As unfair as it seems, they are desktop linux issues, not Nvidia issues. If your OS does not work with the most popular discrete graphics solution, it's a "you" problem. Like I said, completely unfair :) Speaking of which, the windows graphics subsystem is light years ahead of anything on the linux desktop. It can handle a driver AND card kernel crash, restart the card, and your system keeps running. It's actually very impressive. > Cubic That is installing with a disk image, which is a different thing than an image based install (Windows DISM). > NixOS or Guix This is much closer to the reproducible install mechanism windows has, although still has some key deficiencies (and key benefits that windows doesn't have!). I think this is the future, but IME is not completely ready for casual desktop use.

goosedragons 4y ago
Modern MacOS has zero support for Nvidia even in their $6000+ desktop with PCIe slots but nobody says shit like "it's not ready for prime time". I don't think it's fair to penalize Linux for Nvidia being shoddy at drivers and not playing ball.
- parker_mountain 4y ago
  If you say you support PCs, and your support for the most common configurations is lacking, then it's your problem. If I owe the bank $1000, it's my problem. If I owe the bank $1,000,000,000, then it's their problem. Apple is a terrible example to use. Apple does not play that game, it's very clear going in that you're buying more of an appliance. Also, that $6000+ desktop is literally the last of their lineup on Intel and is clearly on its way out - it will probably be replaced by something without PCIe. Not saying if that's good or bad, just that it's Apple. Personally, I think it's quite bad, though...