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Not really. There’s three factors: - Everyone overhired during the pandemic. - Interest rates are impacting the business at all levels. - Wall St demands sac

Not really. There’s three factors: - Everyone overhired during the pandemic. - Interest rates are impacting the business at all levels. - Wall St demands sacrifice to the volcano gods. Microsoft and Amazon did layoffs, so must google.

ncphil 4y ago
"The volcano gods". Best phrase of this thread.
2Gkashmiri 4y ago
>- Everyone overhired during the pandemic. why?
- Spooky23 4y ago
  They were printing money and dealing with chaos. A friend of mine in sales booked multiple deals with a phone call (ie. Give me X widgets by Y date) for >$10M in April-June 2020. Exceeded his yearly goal before end of April. The Federal government prevented a depression by shooting a firehose of money at everything. NYC public schools alone bought almost a million iPads.
UncleMeat 4y ago
I think this is all a smokescreen. Tech companies have seen compensation skyrocket with no end in sight. Everybody laying off a bunch of people at the same time to flood the market means they all need to compete far less for people. Suddenly "hey I've got another offer, can you beat it?" becomes less feasible. This is an industry-wide emergent strategy to limit compensation. Notice how these companies are still hiring after the layoffs.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  I’m sure. All of these companies use the same criteria and went on a hiring binge, partially to deny employees to competitors. It’s a like a gas station pump war. End of the day, when growth slows, it’s hard to justify some of these salaries, becuase you can’t raise prices forever. I lost an employee who is getting paid $450k by AWS to do customer engineer type work. It’s just not worth that to me, and we hired a replacement recent graduate who went to a school that FANG companies will bin him for. The replacement makes $125k, is great, and will probably be with us for 3-4 years.

ncphil 4y ago

"The volcano gods". Best phrase of this thread.

2Gkashmiri 4y ago

>- Everyone overhired during the pandemic. why?

Spooky23 4y ago
They were printing money and dealing with chaos. A friend of mine in sales booked multiple deals with a phone call (ie. Give me X widgets by Y date) for >$10M in April-June 2020. Exceeded his yearly goal before end of April. The Federal government prevented a depression by shooting a firehose of money at everything. NYC public schools alone bought almost a million iPads.

UncleMeat 4y ago

I think this is all a smokescreen. Tech companies have seen compensation skyrocket with no end in sight. Everybody laying off a bunch of people at the same time to flood the market means they all need to compete far less for people. Suddenly "hey I've got another offer, can you beat it?" becomes less feasible. This is an industry-wide emergent strategy to limit compensation. Notice how these companies are still hiring after the layoffs.

Spooky23 4y ago
I’m sure. All of these companies use the same criteria and went on a hiring binge, partially to deny employees to competitors. It’s a like a gas station pump war. End of the day, when growth slows, it’s hard to justify some of these salaries, becuase you can’t raise prices forever. I lost an employee who is getting paid $450k by AWS to do customer engineer type work. It’s just not worth that to me, and we hired a replacement recent graduate who went to a school that FANG companies will bin him for. The replacement makes $125k, is great, and will probably be with us for 3-4 years.