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This is such a strange complaint. I don't know half the things on HN, so I just ignore them and read the articles on topics I do know and care about. If you do

by spaceman_2020 4y ago

This is such a strange complaint. I don't know half the things on HN, so I just ignore them and read the articles on topics I do know and care about. If you don't know what Genesis is, you could have simply ignored the 20 odd pixels of vertical space this headline occupies, and moved on. Apologies if I'm being brusque.

roenxi 4y ago
This link will make you less informed, because it is adding narrative (crypto firms teetering!) to a bland story (the economic damage from the COVID response is serious). I think someone needs to be proactive and point out that this is useless. If this was Crypto News then sure. This may as well be a Tweet telling us that Powered Brands went bankrupt. Whoever they are, I just searched for "bankruptcies 2023". If this one matters, then someone will have to write a blog post explaining why and we can all read that instead and learn something.
- spaceman_2020 4y ago
  There's an upvote feature on HN exactly for burying stories that are irrelevant. If enough people have voted this to the front page, it simply means that enough people find it relevant. If it's not relevant to you, you can just ignore it.
  - roenxi 4y ago
    1) There is no downvote for stories AFAIK. 2) I refuse to downvote anything except comments that include "I'm going to get downvoted for this...". The signal is too noisy to figure out what a downvote means. If I do not like something, I write a comment.
- usrusr 4y ago
  Crypto failing because of covid response? That's a new one..
- rsynnott 4y ago
  Genesis's collapse is (a) nothing to do with covid and (b) systemically important to the wider crypto ecosystem.
usrusr 4y ago
GP is not unhappy about topics appearing on hn that he knows little about, it's specifically about using Twitter for something like that. Conventional media would usually come with a short introduction for those completely new to the topic. The kind that tends to lead to considerable hilarity in those who don't need it. More traditional publications sometimes even seem to aim that short introduction at a knowledge level so low that it could only make sense to future generations finding a centuries old document or to some time traveler who skipped the last decades. Hn, with its original source policy, will tend to avoid those without even trying. Even if I think that guideline is more about avoiding derivative journalistism than about avoiding journalism. At some point going deeper to some original source becomes a trade-off and Twitter links make that conveniently graspable.

roenxi 4y ago

This link will make you less informed, because it is adding narrative (crypto firms teetering!) to a bland story (the economic damage from the COVID response is serious). I think someone needs to be proactive and point out that this is useless. If this was Crypto News then sure. This may as well be a Tweet telling us that Powered Brands went bankrupt. Whoever they are, I just searched for "bankruptcies 2023". If this one matters, then someone will have to write a blog post explaining why and we can all read that instead and learn something.

spaceman_2020 4y ago
There's an upvote feature on HN exactly for burying stories that are irrelevant. If enough people have voted this to the front page, it simply means that enough people find it relevant. If it's not relevant to you, you can just ignore it.
- roenxi 4y ago
  1) There is no downvote for stories AFAIK. 2) I refuse to downvote anything except comments that include "I'm going to get downvoted for this...". The signal is too noisy to figure out what a downvote means. If I do not like something, I write a comment.
usrusr 4y ago
Crypto failing because of covid response? That's a new one..
rsynnott 4y ago
Genesis's collapse is (a) nothing to do with covid and (b) systemically important to the wider crypto ecosystem.

usrusr 4y ago

GP is not unhappy about topics appearing on hn that he knows little about, it's specifically about using Twitter for something like that. Conventional media would usually come with a short introduction for those completely new to the topic. The kind that tends to lead to considerable hilarity in those who don't need it. More traditional publications sometimes even seem to aim that short introduction at a knowledge level so low that it could only make sense to future generations finding a centuries old document or to some time traveler who skipped the last decades. Hn, with its original source policy, will tend to avoid those without even trying. Even if I think that guideline is more about avoiding derivative journalistism than about avoiding journalism. At some point going deeper to some original source becomes a trade-off and Twitter links make that conveniently graspable.