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Ah, I get your point that it's about what's changed through time Though I'd add to that that the common awareness--an acceptance of speaking publicly about and

Ah, I get your point that it's about what's changed through time Though I'd add to that that the common awareness--an acceptance of speaking publicly about and solidarity in not standing for--sexual assault, is something that has grown dramatically in the past decade for women. In the past many of these things would be covered in shame and swept under the rug but now the issues are more visible and many younger women are taking more active roles in fighting back against abuse. Many young men are working hard to be good allies in this as well. It's something we can't know but I also wonder how widespread a fear of false allegation truly is. In my experience I've only heard it raised by men who have otherwise displayed misogynistic tendencies and, in the face of other perceived dangers, confidence to the point of arrogance. It's always struck me, ironically, as a false flag fear that is used to stir up distrust in the stories of women and to create a societal backdrop where sexual assault is easier to carry out. Obviously I can't share statistics or research on this point, but it's been my personal experience and it's a feeling I'd like to share with this community.

DonHopkins 4y ago
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- AlecSchueler 4y ago
  This is very true and sadly our society is still accepting enough of misogyny being a part of common discourse that it can often go unquestioned. Thankfully we have made some progress in other areas. I can't imagine a thread where someone claims they'd choose not to socialise because they're afraid of non-whites labeling then as racist only to be met with supporters asking "huh, why is this fear irrational?" when they're called out on it.
- carlosjobim 4y ago
  >If fear of being accused of sexual assault is what it takes to convince those (mostly irrational) young men to keep their dicks in their pants and their hands to themselves and their mouths shut, then so be it. That's called progress, and it's a wonderful thing. Note that I was speaking of fear of being falsely accused, not rightly accused. Men who expose themselves or commit other sexual crimes have no such concerns. They also live among your circles, believe it or not. The world is bigger than your strictly enforced American bipartisan ideology. My experience is from places where there exist no republicans or democrats - long before people such as Trump or Andrew Tate were widely talked about.
- annyeonghada 4y ago
  Your lack of empathy for men and your objectification of men as mere walking dicks is truly disgusting. You are definitely part of why men do not trust women: you are part of the problem. If being afraid of the, quite frequent, false accusations is misogyny then I am a misogynist.
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    Yes, I think from your comment history that it is quite clear that you are a misogynist, and that because of that, your opinions don't matter, and nobody cares what you think. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34244423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34244423 >But if the man decide to not want to be a "slave" of the woman who "doesn't love him anymore" he must pay or go to prison. Yay reproductive rights for me but not for thee! How dare man not wanting to slave away at the benefits of women! And let's remember that in EVERY society men pay ALL the taxes and women are ALWAYS net beneficiaries, not exactly "slaves".

DonHopkins 4y ago

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AlecSchueler 4y ago
This is very true and sadly our society is still accepting enough of misogyny being a part of common discourse that it can often go unquestioned. Thankfully we have made some progress in other areas. I can't imagine a thread where someone claims they'd choose not to socialise because they're afraid of non-whites labeling then as racist only to be met with supporters asking "huh, why is this fear irrational?" when they're called out on it.
carlosjobim 4y ago
>If fear of being accused of sexual assault is what it takes to convince those (mostly irrational) young men to keep their dicks in their pants and their hands to themselves and their mouths shut, then so be it. That's called progress, and it's a wonderful thing. Note that I was speaking of fear of being falsely accused, not rightly accused. Men who expose themselves or commit other sexual crimes have no such concerns. They also live among your circles, believe it or not. The world is bigger than your strictly enforced American bipartisan ideology. My experience is from places where there exist no republicans or democrats - long before people such as Trump or Andrew Tate were widely talked about.
annyeonghada 4y ago
Your lack of empathy for men and your objectification of men as mere walking dicks is truly disgusting. You are definitely part of why men do not trust women: you are part of the problem. If being afraid of the, quite frequent, false accusations is misogyny then I am a misogynist.
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  Yes, I think from your comment history that it is quite clear that you are a misogynist, and that because of that, your opinions don't matter, and nobody cares what you think. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34244423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34244423 >But if the man decide to not want to be a "slave" of the woman who "doesn't love him anymore" he must pay or go to prison. Yay reproductive rights for me but not for thee! How dare man not wanting to slave away at the benefits of women! And let's remember that in EVERY society men pay ALL the taxes and women are ALWAYS net beneficiaries, not exactly "slaves".