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I live in Germany and regularly travel to neighbouring countries by car. The lack of speed limits on some sections of the German Autobahn makes traveling throug

by atoav 4y ago

I live in Germany and regularly travel to neighbouring countries by car. The lack of speed limits on some sections of the German Autobahn makes traveling through that country seriously exhausting. While you just keep on keeping on on non-German highways driving on a German Autobahn section without tempo limit can feel like entering a war. The typical makeup of a three-lane section of German Autobahn is: - Right: trucks, very slow vehicles - Middle: people who go at reasonable speeds (~130 to 160 km/h depending on the terrain) - Left: people who disregard the physics of air resistance and blast without limits This is the ideal, but not what you will encounter on the road. Whenever a truck overtakes another you have to beeak down or use the leftmost lane and make sure the cars that approach from behind with a potential delta of 100+ km/h don't crush you to death. Generally this leads to many stressful and dangerous situations. Speed limits make sense because they make driving safer by deceeasing the possible speed delta between vehicles who share a road.

gggggg5 4y ago
>Left: people who disregard the physics of air resistance and blast without limits Left: some guy in a X5 driving steady 150km/h, not reacting to getting flashed and immediately accelerating if you try to pass on the right. Somehow, as soon as you get out of Germany this stops happening. In France and Benelux you get to comfortably cruise at 250km/h and everyone just moves out of the way. German autobahns are not exhausting because of the lack of speed limits, they're exhausting because of the Germans.
- aeno 4y ago
  Are you trolling? Where in France are you allowed to go 250km/h?
  - gggggg5 4y ago
    >Are you trolling? No? > Where in France are you allowed to go 250km/h? Nowhere, but like most EU countries there is nothing stopping you from going 250km/h. It's extremely unlikely that you'll encounter cops who'd bother to chase you, especially while using Waze and the likes. Besides, how often do you see German registered cars driving the speed limit in France? Foreign registered cars are pretty much always speeding.
- ohgodplsno 4y ago
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  - gggggg5 4y ago
    >Sure, do that. The cops won't chase you, they'll just be waiting for you at the toll booth. I'm sure Waze will get you out of it. Never once happened to me having driven hundreds of thousands of kilometers through these countries, but YMMV. We usually wear matching hoodies on any longer trips to combat driver identification anyway. If the cops actually make an effort, you just perform some acrobatics inside the car so they won't be able to tell which of the passengers was driving. > know that getting caught once is a 1500€ fine and your car seized Can't seize a car the driver doesn't own. Unless you mean impounding it and requiring you to pay some small release fee? >Needless to say, we don't need drivers like you on our roads, and I dearly hope you do crash at that speed and permanently rid us of you. Unnecessarily harsh. I reckon it'd be better for everybody if I didn't crash at that speed.
    - ohgodplsno 4y ago
      >Unnecessarily harsh. I reckon it'd be better for everybody if I didn't crash at that speed. No. You are not a professional driver, or even a good driver, because a good driver would recognize that the proper place to do 250 is on a race track. You make the road dangerous both for you, but even more so for other drivers and will, one day, kill someone. So, please, kindly fuck off of french roads, whether it is through crossing the border and letting it be someone else's problem, or eating a tree like half of the dumbasses driving polish rental Audis.
      - gggggg5 4y ago
        > and will, one day, kill someone Statistically this is not true. And for what it's worth, there's a huge difference between driving fast while consistently hugging the left lane, and weaving through traffic. In doing the first, I'm not causing nearly as significant risk as you suggest. Driving fast will not cause my car to suddenly spin out of control, the only way I'll end up hitting someone is if they decide to suddenly veer onto my lane without signaling.

by atoav 4y ago

gggggg5 4y ago

>Left: people who disregard the physics of air resistance and blast without limits Left: some guy in a X5 driving steady 150km/h, not reacting to getting flashed and immediately accelerating if you try to pass on the right. Somehow, as soon as you get out of Germany this stops happening. In France and Benelux you get to comfortably cruise at 250km/h and everyone just moves out of the way. German autobahns are not exhausting because of the lack of speed limits, they're exhausting because of the Germans.

aeno 4y ago
Are you trolling? Where in France are you allowed to go 250km/h?
- gggggg5 4y ago
  >Are you trolling? No? > Where in France are you allowed to go 250km/h? Nowhere, but like most EU countries there is nothing stopping you from going 250km/h. It's extremely unlikely that you'll encounter cops who'd bother to chase you, especially while using Waze and the likes. Besides, how often do you see German registered cars driving the speed limit in France? Foreign registered cars are pretty much always speeding.
ohgodplsno 4y ago
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- gggggg5 4y ago
  >Sure, do that. The cops won't chase you, they'll just be waiting for you at the toll booth. I'm sure Waze will get you out of it. Never once happened to me having driven hundreds of thousands of kilometers through these countries, but YMMV. We usually wear matching hoodies on any longer trips to combat driver identification anyway. If the cops actually make an effort, you just perform some acrobatics inside the car so they won't be able to tell which of the passengers was driving. > know that getting caught once is a 1500€ fine and your car seized Can't seize a car the driver doesn't own. Unless you mean impounding it and requiring you to pay some small release fee? >Needless to say, we don't need drivers like you on our roads, and I dearly hope you do crash at that speed and permanently rid us of you. Unnecessarily harsh. I reckon it'd be better for everybody if I didn't crash at that speed.
  - ohgodplsno 4y ago
    >Unnecessarily harsh. I reckon it'd be better for everybody if I didn't crash at that speed. No. You are not a professional driver, or even a good driver, because a good driver would recognize that the proper place to do 250 is on a race track. You make the road dangerous both for you, but even more so for other drivers and will, one day, kill someone. So, please, kindly fuck off of french roads, whether it is through crossing the border and letting it be someone else's problem, or eating a tree like half of the dumbasses driving polish rental Audis.
    - gggggg5 4y ago
      > and will, one day, kill someone Statistically this is not true. And for what it's worth, there's a huge difference between driving fast while consistently hugging the left lane, and weaving through traffic. In doing the first, I'm not causing nearly as significant risk as you suggest. Driving fast will not cause my car to suddenly spin out of control, the only way I'll end up hitting someone is if they decide to suddenly veer onto my lane without signaling.