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In real world we have Germany which used natural gas for base load power generation which resulted into explosion of energy prices. Now they are using "expensiv

In real world we have Germany which used natural gas for base load power generation which resulted into explosion of energy prices. Now they are using "expensive" coal and have manageable prices. France restarted its nuclear power plants and guess what? Prices for energy went down! How is that even possible when renewables are so cheap and nuclear power can't compete with price? That's because renewables by installed capacity looks like a big source of power, but by actually provided energy they are negligible rounding error, especially in winter.

Schroedingersat 4y ago
> In real world we have Germany which used natural gas for base load power generation which resulted into explosion of energy prices. Now they are using "expensive" coal and have manageable prices. Funny that having a corrupt leader who is literally employed by gazprom led to sabotaging the renewable rollout and putting it behind by 5 years. In spite of this renewables still replaced every joule that nuclear would have produced were the reactors refurbished at greater cost and 10% or so of the fossil fuels. > France restarted its nuclear power plants and guess what? Prices for energy went down! How is that even possible when renewables are so cheap and nuclear power can't compete with price? This is so laughably stupid that it rebuts itself. > That's because renewables by installed capacity looks like a big source of power, but by actually provided energy they are negligible rounding error, especially in winter. So 40% of electricity in Germany being produced by wind, solar, and byproduct-derived biogas is a rounding error but producing 2/3rds of that via nuclear in the 90s was significant?
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
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  - Schroedingersat 4y ago
    https://techxplore.com/news/2023-01-significant-generation-pv-germany.html https://techxplore.com/news/2023-01-significant-generation-p... Produced. Doubling down on stupidity doesn't make it true.
    - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
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pydry 4y ago
>France restarted its nuclear power plants and guess what? Prices for energy went down! How is that even possible when renewables are so cheap and nuclear power can't compete with price? Because the nuclear plants that went down were already paid for. They went down in the first place because theyre expensive to maintain and France was cutting costs. If nuclear were cost competitive then they wouldnt be riding on the coat tails of soon-to-expire reactors built in the 70s and the % of French electricity supplied by nuclear wouldnt be going down.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  German nuclear power plants weren't paid for? What kind of excuse is that?

Schroedingersat 4y ago

> In real world we have Germany which used natural gas for base load power generation which resulted into explosion of energy prices. Now they are using "expensive" coal and have manageable prices. Funny that having a corrupt leader who is literally employed by gazprom led to sabotaging the renewable rollout and putting it behind by 5 years. In spite of this renewables still replaced every joule that nuclear would have produced were the reactors refurbished at greater cost and 10% or so of the fossil fuels. > France restarted its nuclear power plants and guess what? Prices for energy went down! How is that even possible when renewables are so cheap and nuclear power can't compete with price? This is so laughably stupid that it rebuts itself. > That's because renewables by installed capacity looks like a big source of power, but by actually provided energy they are negligible rounding error, especially in winter. So 40% of electricity in Germany being produced by wind, solar, and byproduct-derived biogas is a rounding error but producing 2/3rds of that via nuclear in the 90s was significant?

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
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- Schroedingersat 4y ago
  https://techxplore.com/news/2023-01-significant-generation-pv-germany.html https://techxplore.com/news/2023-01-significant-generation-p... Produced. Doubling down on stupidity doesn't make it true.
  - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
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pydry 4y ago

>France restarted its nuclear power plants and guess what? Prices for energy went down! How is that even possible when renewables are so cheap and nuclear power can't compete with price? Because the nuclear plants that went down were already paid for. They went down in the first place because theyre expensive to maintain and France was cutting costs. If nuclear were cost competitive then they wouldnt be riding on the coat tails of soon-to-expire reactors built in the 70s and the % of French electricity supplied by nuclear wouldnt be going down.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
German nuclear power plants weren't paid for? What kind of excuse is that?