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Dystopian is the day that Apple sells your location information to the local police force and you just get a speeding ticket in the mail every time you drive 1m

Dystopian is the day that Apple sells your location information to the local police force and you just get a speeding ticket in the mail every time you drive 1mph over the speed limit. (Is there a statute of limitations on speeding tickets? They can get you for your entire driving career with a mere SQL query!) Speaking of dystopias, I'm surprised that they don't issue speeding tickets based on the time that EZ-PASS sees your transponder in various locations. They must imagine too much backlash, or tacitly endorse some speeding already. (I've never seen someone get a ticket for going 60 in a 55, though I'm sure it must happen.)

uni_rule 4y ago
Considering the defacto speed of 80 on a road that is limited to 65 dominates the whole of New Jersey I think there would be so many people caught in that net they wouldn't be able to properly prosecute it.
NoImmatureAdHom 4y ago
Backlash indeed. Americans would flip their shit. No more EZ-PASS!
midoridensha 4y ago
As usual, it's all about money. If they used Ez-Pass data (remember, Ez-Pass is a private company) to issue speeding tickets, then no one would get an Ez-Pass and they'd have to go back to toll booths. The system only works because drivers believe that Ez-Pass data is only used for toll collection and nothing more. If they used it to hand out 3mph-over tickets, everyone would stop using it.
ajdude 4y ago
> Dystopian is the day that Apple sells your location information to the local police force and you just get a speeding ticket in the mail every time you drive 1mph over the speed limit Something like this happened with TomTom several years ago: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/04/28/135809709/dutch-police-used-tomtoms-gps-data-to-target-speeders https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/04/28/135809709...
aceazzameen 4y ago
I've always wondered about why that hasn't been implemented with EZ-PASS too. My assumption is politicians don't want it because they all like to speed, and it's easier to tell a cop who they are instead of fighting a digital ticket.
tristor 4y ago
> I'm surprised that they don't issue speeding tickets based on the time that EZ-PASS sees your transponder in various locations. They don't want to do this. Toll systems are set up as private corporations (often with government money) so that they can operate for-profit, and are a tacit "Speeding Pass". E.g. usually there is no enforcement in toll lanes / toll roads for speed limits compared to standard roads. They do this very specifically as an enticement for people to pay in order to get to their destination faster, that is the entire USP (unique selling proposition) to a toll road. If they started using toll data to automatically enforce speed limits, it would immediately making tolling impossible/unsustainable, and nobody would use transponder systems. There's already issues with people cheating tolls using various methods to obscure their license plate for systems which support license plate tolling.

uni_rule 4y ago

Considering the defacto speed of 80 on a road that is limited to 65 dominates the whole of New Jersey I think there would be so many people caught in that net they wouldn't be able to properly prosecute it.

NoImmatureAdHom 4y ago

Backlash indeed. Americans would flip their shit. No more EZ-PASS!

midoridensha 4y ago

As usual, it's all about money. If they used Ez-Pass data (remember, Ez-Pass is a private company) to issue speeding tickets, then no one would get an Ez-Pass and they'd have to go back to toll booths. The system only works because drivers believe that Ez-Pass data is only used for toll collection and nothing more. If they used it to hand out 3mph-over tickets, everyone would stop using it.

ajdude 4y ago

> Dystopian is the day that Apple sells your location information to the local police force and you just get a speeding ticket in the mail every time you drive 1mph over the speed limit Something like this happened with TomTom several years ago: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/04/28/135809709/dutch-police-used-tomtoms-gps-data-to-target-speeders https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/04/28/135809709...

aceazzameen 4y ago

I've always wondered about why that hasn't been implemented with EZ-PASS too. My assumption is politicians don't want it because they all like to speed, and it's easier to tell a cop who they are instead of fighting a digital ticket.

tristor 4y ago

> I'm surprised that they don't issue speeding tickets based on the time that EZ-PASS sees your transponder in various locations. They don't want to do this. Toll systems are set up as private corporations (often with government money) so that they can operate for-profit, and are a tacit "Speeding Pass". E.g. usually there is no enforcement in toll lanes / toll roads for speed limits compared to standard roads. They do this very specifically as an enticement for people to pay in order to get to their destination faster, that is the entire USP (unique selling proposition) to a toll road. If they started using toll data to automatically enforce speed limits, it would immediately making tolling impossible/unsustainable, and nobody would use transponder systems. There's already issues with people cheating tolls using various methods to obscure their license plate for systems which support license plate tolling.