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Competing access needs: autists need regularity, ??s ("the category of people who go by it/its") need ... creativity? chaos? uniqueness? Those goals are at dire

Competing access needs: autists need regularity, ??s ("the category of people who go by it/its") need ... creativity? chaos? uniqueness? Those goals are at direct odds. (I'm going to presume here that crimew doesn't actually want to be considered an object, because we don't generally respect objects' pronoun choices. So calling them an "it" in the grammatical way would be paradoxically self-defeating; we call objects he/she all the time and they usually don't complain.) This is also why I will always defend the use of "they" as valid. There has to be at least one universal pronoun.

ripdog 4y ago
Yes, it's likely that I am more challenged by the grammatically incorrect pronouns than most neurotypicals in this thread, thanks for pointing that out. A lot of people who like to cry 'transphobic!' may wish to understand that there are people who need accommodation in our society other than trans people, and that heralding chosen pronouns as truly inviolable will sometimes make other people less comfortable. That said, I have so far managed to avoid any such accusations in this thread, thankfully.
- sammax 4y ago
  I fail to see how any of the mentioned pronouns are ungrammatical. As for competing needs and such, in this case it’s as easy as using she/her (as maia lists that as one of its pronouns), in other cases it’s usually acceptable to use they/them or no pronouns at all. The only thing that is generally absolutely unacceptable is (knowingly) using the wrong gendered pronouns or using gendered pronouns when the person only uses non-gendered pronouns.
  - FeepingCreature 4y ago
    It's not that it's hard in any absolute sense, it's that imposes an ongoing overhead cost on people who may already pay a high cost to interact at all. (Also, of course, a cost on reading discussion about it. (Does that 'it' refer to the discussion or the author? You don't know! Have fun investing effort to work it out, every single time it's used.)

ripdog 4y ago

Yes, it's likely that I am more challenged by the grammatically incorrect pronouns than most neurotypicals in this thread, thanks for pointing that out. A lot of people who like to cry 'transphobic!' may wish to understand that there are people who need accommodation in our society other than trans people, and that heralding chosen pronouns as truly inviolable will sometimes make other people less comfortable. That said, I have so far managed to avoid any such accusations in this thread, thankfully.

sammax 4y ago
I fail to see how any of the mentioned pronouns are ungrammatical. As for competing needs and such, in this case it’s as easy as using she/her (as maia lists that as one of its pronouns), in other cases it’s usually acceptable to use they/them or no pronouns at all. The only thing that is generally absolutely unacceptable is (knowingly) using the wrong gendered pronouns or using gendered pronouns when the person only uses non-gendered pronouns.
- FeepingCreature 4y ago
  It's not that it's hard in any absolute sense, it's that imposes an ongoing overhead cost on people who may already pay a high cost to interact at all. (Also, of course, a cost on reading discussion about it. (Does that 'it' refer to the discussion or the author? You don't know! Have fun investing effort to work it out, every single time it's used.)