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Seems to be the only big change - this was added to a list of 'thou shalt not's: "use or access the Licensed Materials to create or attempt to create a substit

Seems to be the only big change - this was added to a list of 'thou shalt not's: "use or access the Licensed Materials to create or attempt to create a substitute or similar service or product to the Twitter Applications" Goodbye, nitter(?)

akerl_ 4y ago
And Tweetbot, and Twitterific, and every other 3rd party app for using Twitter.
- Rebelgecko 4y ago
  Which is ironic since some of those predate the official Twitter app
nhtsamera 4y ago
Ex post facto, as usual. What are the odds that this whole imbroglio happened because their third-party APIs broke and they can't figure out how to fix them?
- judge2020 4y ago
  The funny part is that there are fairly stable internal (as in, 1p client but open to the internet) Twitter APIs that don't require authentication.
- gavanwilhite 4y ago
  I think that this has a way higher chance of being true than people have been assuming. The slack convo leak would have been the same either way. It really has a strong smell of protect-my-ego.
bronikowski 4y ago
> Goodbye, nitter(?) That would be devastating for me. Not only it's the only way of looking at anything on Twitter (I invite you to open a thread on mobile. I get 3 modals covering 95% of a screen) but it's also how I follow some accounts via RSS.
- Beaver117 4y ago
  Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023, this is a pretty good user signup strategy. Reddit does it, Instagram does it, probably plenty others. If you block people from viewing stuff without an account... they're gonna make an account.
  - bronikowski 4y ago
    > Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023 Because it's superior technology for following posting/news to opening app and praying that algorithm will show me what I wanted? My feeds flow to me at 6:00, via rss2email, and get filtered into a IMAP folder and I can read them at my leisure. Online or offline, with whatever client I have handy. > this is a pretty good user signup strategy Nagging only works if I really, really want to see what you hide behind a login screen. For most of the posts on Twitter it won't be worth it.
  - f1refly 4y ago
    > Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023 What do you propose instead? > Reddit does it, Instagram does it One website known for its hilariously broken performance and a Facebook subsidiary. Nothing anyone should look up to.
  - timeon 4y ago
    > why someone is still using RSS in 2023 Better question is: why not?
  - thisGuyFlicks 4y ago
    > Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023 Gen Z? Or just not familiar with the technology? Protocols don't die just because the newer generation doesn't understand them.
    - anthk 4y ago
      Sadly the Gen-Z ers are not used to the term RSS, download and offline. Specially for podcasts.
jug 4y ago
Goodbye Nitter indeed. Also, goodbye Twitterific. Goodbye Tweetbot. Goodbye all methods of accessing Twitter outside of their apps. They took down their API and bypassing this move via internal API's or scraping output via a headless client (thinking of ways forward for Nitter) will surely be seen as intentional to violate this. So, I guess this is the end then. https://twitterrific.com/beyond https://twitterrific.com/beyond https://twitter.com/tapbots/status/1614041474567372804 https://twitter.com/tapbots/status/1614041474567372804
- hiccuphippo 4y ago
  Rather than goodbye, won't they move onto using twitter the same way invidious and newpipe use youtube with no "API"?
jacooper 4y ago
If the developer even cares what twitter says. Piped exists even though YouTube has the same clause.
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  The whole point of Nitter is to not give a shit about what Twitter thinks. It's built by screen-scraping the frontend (and using its internal API endpoints) for this reason so it is immune to changes to the official API. Nitter will be fine and will gain more relevance as a result of this.

akerl_ 4y ago

And Tweetbot, and Twitterific, and every other 3rd party app for using Twitter.

Rebelgecko 4y ago
Which is ironic since some of those predate the official Twitter app

nhtsamera 4y ago

Ex post facto, as usual. What are the odds that this whole imbroglio happened because their third-party APIs broke and they can't figure out how to fix them?

judge2020 4y ago
The funny part is that there are fairly stable internal (as in, 1p client but open to the internet) Twitter APIs that don't require authentication.
gavanwilhite 4y ago
I think that this has a way higher chance of being true than people have been assuming. The slack convo leak would have been the same either way. It really has a strong smell of protect-my-ego.

bronikowski 4y ago

> Goodbye, nitter(?) That would be devastating for me. Not only it's the only way of looking at anything on Twitter (I invite you to open a thread on mobile. I get 3 modals covering 95% of a screen) but it's also how I follow some accounts via RSS.

Beaver117 4y ago
Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023, this is a pretty good user signup strategy. Reddit does it, Instagram does it, probably plenty others. If you block people from viewing stuff without an account... they're gonna make an account.
- bronikowski 4y ago
  > Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023 Because it's superior technology for following posting/news to opening app and praying that algorithm will show me what I wanted? My feeds flow to me at 6:00, via rss2email, and get filtered into a IMAP folder and I can read them at my leisure. Online or offline, with whatever client I have handy. > this is a pretty good user signup strategy Nagging only works if I really, really want to see what you hide behind a login screen. For most of the posts on Twitter it won't be worth it.
- f1refly 4y ago
  > Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023 What do you propose instead? > Reddit does it, Instagram does it One website known for its hilariously broken performance and a Facebook subsidiary. Nothing anyone should look up to.
- timeon 4y ago
  > why someone is still using RSS in 2023 Better question is: why not?
- thisGuyFlicks 4y ago
  > Leaving aside why someone is still using RSS in 2023 Gen Z? Or just not familiar with the technology? Protocols don't die just because the newer generation doesn't understand them.
  - anthk 4y ago
    Sadly the Gen-Z ers are not used to the term RSS, download and offline. Specially for podcasts.

jug 4y ago

Goodbye Nitter indeed. Also, goodbye Twitterific. Goodbye Tweetbot. Goodbye all methods of accessing Twitter outside of their apps. They took down their API and bypassing this move via internal API's or scraping output via a headless client (thinking of ways forward for Nitter) will surely be seen as intentional to violate this. So, I guess this is the end then. https://twitterrific.com/beyond https://twitterrific.com/beyond https://twitter.com/tapbots/status/1614041474567372804 https://twitter.com/tapbots/status/1614041474567372804

hiccuphippo 4y ago
Rather than goodbye, won't they move onto using twitter the same way invidious and newpipe use youtube with no "API"?

jacooper 4y ago

If the developer even cares what twitter says. Piped exists even though YouTube has the same clause.

Nextgrid 4y ago
The whole point of Nitter is to not give a shit about what Twitter thinks. It's built by screen-scraping the frontend (and using its internal API endpoints) for this reason so it is immune to changes to the official API. Nitter will be fine and will gain more relevance as a result of this.