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> I'll go back to debian. I just switched to Debian a month or so ago after I saw how their software center was pushing a bunch of proprietary software and ear

• jiggy2011 15y ago
  How does it "trick" you into installing a flash plugin? I'm pretty sure you can select not to install any proprietary software. The flash player is installed by default because to many people a desktop system with no flash player will feel crippled.
  • technomancy 15y ago
    > How does it "trick" you into installing a flash plugin? I'm pretty sure you can select not to install any proprietary software. At install time it asked me if I wanted to include some other packages that are "restricted", such as the mp3 codecs. Using the mp3 codecs as an example tricked me into thinking they were restricted for patent issues, not because of a restrictive license.
    • jiggy2011 15y ago
      That's not really a 'trick' , the question is asking whether you want to stick with FOSS type licenses or whether you want audio & video to work. It's easy enough to remove flash player later anyway but it seems a sensible assumption that if you want MP3 and video codecs you probably want flash.
      • technomancy 15y ago
        > whether you want to stick with FOSS type licenses You (and Ubuntu) are conflating software licensing with patent licensing; they are very different things. Patent licensing is only an issue in certain countries with insane laws; software licensing is a problem regardless of jurisdiction.