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How is it part of healthcare if nobody's health is threatened in 99% of cases? Do you consider steroids healthcare? What about something like plastic surgery?

by gkc3 4y ago

nerdjon 4y ago
Not hurt? What are you talking about. Being forced to carry a pregnancy to term can cause bodily issues, psychological, and financial issues. Or you know... just let a woman choose what they want to do with their body? Plastic surgery is perfectly legal and you are fine to do it. Steroids have shown averse and life threatening affects and really should only be prescribed.
- gkc3 4y ago
  They are all similar in that they are disrupting natural bodily processes. I wouldn't call it "healthcare" when they are opposing the body. It is not very healthy for the baby in the womb.
  - mikedelago 4y ago
    "natural bodily processes" are disrupted all the time for the benefit of the individual. I'd be interested in some scholarly sources regarding the efficacy of the information you're describing.
    - shadowgovt 4y ago
      This. A remarkable amount of medical intervention is to externally moderate natural bodily processes that, if allowed to run to their conclusion, would disrupt the body to the point of destruction. There's nothing special and privileged about "natural" processes; if there were we wouldn't need medicine at all.
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  - fknorangesite 4y ago
    > I wouldn't call it "healthcare" when they are opposing the body. Come back and re-read this sentence if you ever get cancer.
  - 33955985 4y ago
    > It is not very healthy for the baby in the womb. Sucks to be a parasite I guess
  - midoridensha 4y ago
    When you're diagnosed with an easily-treated cancer, be sure to not be a hypocrite and refuse medical treatment for it, because that would be disrupting natural bodily processes.
- mikedelago 4y ago
  Might be good to note as well that steroids are commonly prescribed for all kinds of ailments that people have, they're objectively healthcare as well.
  - nerdjon 4y ago
    Honestly that is one of those things that I did not know until recently. Like I figured there was a legitimate reason they were prescribed, but I never actually knew first hand about. Now... my cats a small dose of steroids. The examples of people in this thread have been enlightening on that subject. But unfortunately they do have a bad reputation. I mean if you hear steroids there is likely one image that comes to mind.
Volundr 4y ago
> How is it part of healthcare if nobody's health is threatened in 99% of cases? Far more than 1% of pregnancies carry health risks. Not only that women denied abortions are more likely to have complications during their pregnancy. > Do you consider steroids healthcare? Do you not? I've been given steroids for allergies, rashes, and muscle injuries. > What about something like plastic surgery? How is surgery anything but healthcare?
- fknorangesite 4y ago
  > Far more than 1% of pregnancies carry health risks. Indeed; I'd put it at about 100%. Pregnancy is no joke.
throwaway17532 4y ago
Because being pregnant is actually pretty dangerous for women. It can be especially dangerous if you're in your mid-30's or older. And it's also really dangerous if you're not planning to become pregnant because babies remove essential nutrients from your body. Don't get me started on the risk of eclampsia, gestational diabetes, and post-partum depression. Babies also modify your immune system and may make you more susceptible to diseases. Delivery can be very risky too depending on the shape of your body, and some women have to undergo physically altering surgeries to deliver. Miscarriages can also kill women by causing them to bleed to death really quickly. I think it's important to allow women to make decisions about pregnancy based on their perceived risk, rather than blithely dismissing the morning after pill as being akin to steroids.
PuppyTailWags 4y ago
I consider steroids healthcare. They're used for rashes, chronic pain, low-testosterone treatment or testosterone hormone replacement.
mikedelago 4y ago
Steroids are healthcare, and they are legitimately used for treatment of ailments. Plastic Surgery is healthcare, as it can help treat mental disorders affected by body dysmorphia. Additionally, plastic surgery is much, much more common than you think and not always done for vanity. Even if it was, that's the individual's choice to have the procedure performed. Do you have a source on that 99%? Most sources I'm seeing from a quick google search state that pregnancy is objectively dangerous for people that can get pregnant in many cases, much more than 1%
anigbrowl 4y ago
Please don't be a sealion. If you don't agree with other views on the issue, just say so. But interrogating people is just annoying.
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ablob 4y ago
Plastic surgery can save you if you have severe burn wounds or deformations that came out of an accident. So yes, plastic surgery is health care. Did you have other things in mind when listening these things? Furthermore, 1% "health threat" is quite high of a percentage, don't you think?

How is it part of healthcare if nobody's health is threatened in 99% of cases? Do you consider steroids healthcare? What about something like plastic surgery?

by gkc3 4y ago

How is it part of healthcare if nobody's health is threatened in 99% of cases? Do you consider steroids healthcare? What about something like plastic surgery?

nerdjon 4y ago

Not hurt? What are you talking about. Being forced to carry a pregnancy to term can cause bodily issues, psychological, and financial issues. Or you know... just let a woman choose what they want to do with their body? Plastic surgery is perfectly legal and you are fine to do it. Steroids have shown averse and life threatening affects and really should only be prescribed.

gkc3 4y ago
They are all similar in that they are disrupting natural bodily processes. I wouldn't call it "healthcare" when they are opposing the body. It is not very healthy for the baby in the womb.
- mikedelago 4y ago
  "natural bodily processes" are disrupted all the time for the benefit of the individual. I'd be interested in some scholarly sources regarding the efficacy of the information you're describing.
  - shadowgovt 4y ago
    This. A remarkable amount of medical intervention is to externally moderate natural bodily processes that, if allowed to run to their conclusion, would disrupt the body to the point of destruction. There's nothing special and privileged about "natural" processes; if there were we wouldn't need medicine at all.
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- fknorangesite 4y ago
  > I wouldn't call it "healthcare" when they are opposing the body. Come back and re-read this sentence if you ever get cancer.
- 33955985 4y ago
  > It is not very healthy for the baby in the womb. Sucks to be a parasite I guess
- midoridensha 4y ago
  When you're diagnosed with an easily-treated cancer, be sure to not be a hypocrite and refuse medical treatment for it, because that would be disrupting natural bodily processes.
mikedelago 4y ago
Might be good to note as well that steroids are commonly prescribed for all kinds of ailments that people have, they're objectively healthcare as well.
- nerdjon 4y ago
  Honestly that is one of those things that I did not know until recently. Like I figured there was a legitimate reason they were prescribed, but I never actually knew first hand about. Now... my cats a small dose of steroids. The examples of people in this thread have been enlightening on that subject. But unfortunately they do have a bad reputation. I mean if you hear steroids there is likely one image that comes to mind.

Volundr 4y ago

> How is it part of healthcare if nobody's health is threatened in 99% of cases? Far more than 1% of pregnancies carry health risks. Not only that women denied abortions are more likely to have complications during their pregnancy. > Do you consider steroids healthcare? Do you not? I've been given steroids for allergies, rashes, and muscle injuries. > What about something like plastic surgery? How is surgery anything but healthcare?

fknorangesite 4y ago
> Far more than 1% of pregnancies carry health risks. Indeed; I'd put it at about 100%. Pregnancy is no joke.

throwaway17532 4y ago

Because being pregnant is actually pretty dangerous for women. It can be especially dangerous if you're in your mid-30's or older. And it's also really dangerous if you're not planning to become pregnant because babies remove essential nutrients from your body. Don't get me started on the risk of eclampsia, gestational diabetes, and post-partum depression. Babies also modify your immune system and may make you more susceptible to diseases. Delivery can be very risky too depending on the shape of your body, and some women have to undergo physically altering surgeries to deliver. Miscarriages can also kill women by causing them to bleed to death really quickly. I think it's important to allow women to make decisions about pregnancy based on their perceived risk, rather than blithely dismissing the morning after pill as being akin to steroids.

PuppyTailWags 4y ago

I consider steroids healthcare. They're used for rashes, chronic pain, low-testosterone treatment or testosterone hormone replacement.

mikedelago 4y ago

Steroids are healthcare, and they are legitimately used for treatment of ailments. Plastic Surgery is healthcare, as it can help treat mental disorders affected by body dysmorphia. Additionally, plastic surgery is much, much more common than you think and not always done for vanity. Even if it was, that's the individual's choice to have the procedure performed. Do you have a source on that 99%? Most sources I'm seeing from a quick google search state that pregnancy is objectively dangerous for people that can get pregnant in many cases, much more than 1%

anigbrowl 4y ago

Please don't be a sealion. If you don't agree with other views on the issue, just say so. But interrogating people is just annoying.

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ablob 4y ago

Plastic surgery can save you if you have severe burn wounds or deformations that came out of an accident. So yes, plastic surgery is health care. Did you have other things in mind when listening these things? Furthermore, 1% "health threat" is quite high of a percentage, don't you think?