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>> The idea that a tiny number of billionaire investors who invested early in social media startups get to decide what political speech Americans are allowed to

>> The idea that a tiny number of billionaire investors who invested early in social media startups get to decide what political speech Americans are allowed to express on the internet makes a mockery of our values as Americans. The Supreme Court allows it with Citizens United. Also, this idea of the minority wealthy controlling politics falls in line with the Supreme Court: it's appointed, not elected, judges can decide how to interpret a Constitutional document that has long-lasting personal impact to millions of people. On a business perspective, CEOs make these decisions every day. Consider Rupert Murdoch and his influence on Fox News? I fail to see how your stance of allowing billionaires to make arbitrary decisions for millions to be "a mockery of our values as Americans".

goodSteveramos 4y ago
Are you arguing that the fact that the supreme court is not very democratic means that an even less democratic and much more censorious system of billionaires should be allowed to control political speech? The supreme court has been a massive back door for billionaires to override the democratic process since the 1789 constitution took effect. America had already existed for over 150 year at that point and the principles of freedom of political speech stem from the existing people and culture not the flawed 1789 constitution.
- adamredwoods 4y ago
  >> Are you arguing No, I'm highlighting the hypocrisy of the claim of "American values", showing how private billionaire control exists in many political influencing aspects besides social media-- and yet now how ironic it is that the SCOTUS (who are non-elected and non-accountable) is interested in reviewing the legality of such a thing. https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/paxton-stands-florida-fight-against-big-tech-censorship https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/paxton-st...
  - goodSteveramos 4y ago
    I agree the supreme court is the wrong mechanism to regulate social media. Congress should. I also agree its hypocritical of the supreme court to do it, but its not hypocritical to want free speech on social media despite billionaires controlling other political areas because billionaires controlling politics is not an American value and free speech is.
    - adamredwoods 4y ago
      >> I agree the supreme court is the wrong mechanism to regulate social media. Congress should. Then the ruling party of Congress could possibly influence what is or is not allowed on all platforms, perhaps even influencing future political elections?
      - goodSteveramos 4y ago
        So because the supreme court is your preferred branch of government to defend free speech and because the supreme court is not very democratic you think Americans shouldn't have free speech on social media. What an absolutely remarkable argument in its own right. I hope you are proud of your ability to construct arguments like that.
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goodSteveramos 4y ago

Are you arguing that the fact that the supreme court is not very democratic means that an even less democratic and much more censorious system of billionaires should be allowed to control political speech? The supreme court has been a massive back door for billionaires to override the democratic process since the 1789 constitution took effect. America had already existed for over 150 year at that point and the principles of freedom of political speech stem from the existing people and culture not the flawed 1789 constitution.

adamredwoods 4y ago
>> Are you arguing No, I'm highlighting the hypocrisy of the claim of "American values", showing how private billionaire control exists in many political influencing aspects besides social media-- and yet now how ironic it is that the SCOTUS (who are non-elected and non-accountable) is interested in reviewing the legality of such a thing. https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/paxton-stands-florida-fight-against-big-tech-censorship https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/paxton-st...
- goodSteveramos 4y ago
  I agree the supreme court is the wrong mechanism to regulate social media. Congress should. I also agree its hypocritical of the supreme court to do it, but its not hypocritical to want free speech on social media despite billionaires controlling other political areas because billionaires controlling politics is not an American value and free speech is.
  - adamredwoods 4y ago
    >> I agree the supreme court is the wrong mechanism to regulate social media. Congress should. Then the ruling party of Congress could possibly influence what is or is not allowed on all platforms, perhaps even influencing future political elections?
    - goodSteveramos 4y ago
      So because the supreme court is your preferred branch of government to defend free speech and because the supreme court is not very democratic you think Americans shouldn't have free speech on social media. What an absolutely remarkable argument in its own right. I hope you are proud of your ability to construct arguments like that.

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