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"recent open messaging alternatives seem to decide to develop new protocols rather than build on top of XMPP" XMPP is reasonably specifically a protocol for In
by jerf 4y ago
"recent open messaging alternatives seem to decide to develop new protocols rather than build on top of XMPP"
XMPP is reasonably specifically a protocol for Instant Messaging. You can theoretically do whatever you want with it, and you can theoretically turn it into a mechanism for delivering social-networking style asynchronous messaging, but it doesn't necessarily bring a lot of value, and it makes a certain amount of fundamental architecture decisions that aren't necessarily the best for a social network.
I am interpreting your "recent open messaging alternatives" in the social network framework because my perception is the major ones you might be thinking about are those things, like Mastodon and such. I'm not aware of hot new open IM protocols that are just "old school" IM.
- 3np 4y agoThey're probably referring more to Matrix, which does have a somewhat different scope.
- mynameisvlad 4y agoWhat makes something like Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp, et al not fall into your definition? That seems to be what the parent commenter has in mind far more than Mastodon, at least to me.
- jerf 4y agoNot what I would personally consider "recent". Your mileage will vary; there is no objective definition of that.
- mynameisvlad 4y agoI would argue since the comparison is XMPP, which has been around for almost a quarter of a century, “recent” has a slightly wider definition than most times.