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I wanted to say the same thing. Here i Germany the choice of vegan sausage and cold cuts is huge, even in small grocery shops. I know lot of people who eat mea

I wanted to say the same thing. Here i Germany the choice of vegan sausage and cold cuts is huge, even in small grocery shops. I know lot of people who eat meat regularly _and_ buy the vegan alternatives on a regular basis.

hef19898 4y ago
Which totally puzzles me. Nothing wrong with a vegetarian diet, but would I prefer processed food, vegan or otherwise, over unprocessed one?
- stuaxo 4y ago
  People like variety. Also, people may still like eating meat, but want to eat less of it - not for health reasons, but for the environment and to kill less animals.
- abcc8 4y ago
  I would prefer unprocessed food as well but it sounds like cost is a major driver in this case.
- Felmo 4y ago
  Vegan chicken nuggets are similar easy food than processing vegetables yourself. For me, I love meat, makes it easier to buy the 'better' processed food having this option. If your supermarket doesn't have a vegi option than I can't buy it, try it etc.
- audunw 4y ago
  I think the whole "processed" vs "unprocessed" food label is too imprecise to say anything about whether it's healthy or not. I don't think there's anything that implies that processed foods have to be unhealthy. It's just that most processed food tend to be less healthy.
  - thiht 4y ago
    > I don't think there's anything that implies that processed foods have to be unhealthy Honestly it's just a good rule of thumb to use. Even if it's not 100% true, you're better off acting like it's 100% true in the end.
- tpush 4y ago
  Meat sausages and cold cuts are processed as well. And are likely made with carcinogenic preservatives! Edit: cancerous -> carcinogenic
  - blowski 4y ago
    Normally, but not always. I can get freshly produced sausages from my local butcher.
    - zidad 4y ago
      "fresh" sausages most likely contains some of those preservatives too, as they prevent worse things like botulism. Unless maybe they're made the same day as you consume them?
      - blowski 4y ago
        "Fresh" as in made on the day they're sold from the same meat that's sold there.
      - hef19898 4y ago
        According to our local, nitrate free, butcher freshly slaughtered meat contains enoigh natural nitrate-alternatives to not require additional nitrate if ham, sausages and so on are prepared soon enough.
        not_the_fda 4y ago
        nitrate-free is a myth. They use celery powder which breaks down to sodium nitrate. The FDA allows the producers to call this "nitrate free" since they are not using sodium nitrate directly and the FDA considers the celery powder a flavoring agent. Chemically it breaks down to sodium nitrate and has the same carcinogenic nitrates. Its just a legal labeling loop hole.
        hef19898 4y ago
- unity1001 4y ago
  > but would I prefer processed foo When the processed food tastes as good and as fresh as the one you cook in your house - why not. In the case of European plant-based meat, this is the case.
- LBJsPNS 4y ago
  Do you cook your food? Congratulations, it's processed. Worrying about something as nonspecific as "processing" is much the same as worrying that it's made up of chemicals.

hef19898 4y ago

Which totally puzzles me. Nothing wrong with a vegetarian diet, but would I prefer processed food, vegan or otherwise, over unprocessed one?

stuaxo 4y ago
People like variety. Also, people may still like eating meat, but want to eat less of it - not for health reasons, but for the environment and to kill less animals.
abcc8 4y ago
I would prefer unprocessed food as well but it sounds like cost is a major driver in this case.
Felmo 4y ago
Vegan chicken nuggets are similar easy food than processing vegetables yourself. For me, I love meat, makes it easier to buy the 'better' processed food having this option. If your supermarket doesn't have a vegi option than I can't buy it, try it etc.
audunw 4y ago
I think the whole "processed" vs "unprocessed" food label is too imprecise to say anything about whether it's healthy or not. I don't think there's anything that implies that processed foods have to be unhealthy. It's just that most processed food tend to be less healthy.
- thiht 4y ago
  > I don't think there's anything that implies that processed foods have to be unhealthy Honestly it's just a good rule of thumb to use. Even if it's not 100% true, you're better off acting like it's 100% true in the end.
tpush 4y ago
Meat sausages and cold cuts are processed as well. And are likely made with carcinogenic preservatives! Edit: cancerous -> carcinogenic
- blowski 4y ago
  Normally, but not always. I can get freshly produced sausages from my local butcher.
  - zidad 4y ago
    "fresh" sausages most likely contains some of those preservatives too, as they prevent worse things like botulism. Unless maybe they're made the same day as you consume them?
    - blowski 4y ago
      "Fresh" as in made on the day they're sold from the same meat that's sold there.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      According to our local, nitrate free, butcher freshly slaughtered meat contains enoigh natural nitrate-alternatives to not require additional nitrate if ham, sausages and so on are prepared soon enough.
      - not_the_fda 4y ago
        nitrate-free is a myth. They use celery powder which breaks down to sodium nitrate. The FDA allows the producers to call this "nitrate free" since they are not using sodium nitrate directly and the FDA considers the celery powder a flavoring agent. Chemically it breaks down to sodium nitrate and has the same carcinogenic nitrates. Its just a legal labeling loop hole.
        hef19898 4y ago
unity1001 4y ago
> but would I prefer processed foo When the processed food tastes as good and as fresh as the one you cook in your house - why not. In the case of European plant-based meat, this is the case.
LBJsPNS 4y ago
Do you cook your food? Congratulations, it's processed. Worrying about something as nonspecific as "processing" is much the same as worrying that it's made up of chemicals.