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> It’s a relatively small form, but it does ask whether you’re criminal, used to be a nazi, terrorist… or member of a communist party. Not that different today

> It’s a relatively small form, but it does ask whether you’re criminal, used to be a nazi, terrorist… or member of a communist party. Not that different today, includes are you a war criminal or wanted by Nuremberg and are you a islamic terrorist no? Similarly there's still increased rules if you have been to particular places

watwut 4y ago
> Not that different today, includes are you a war criminal or wanted by Nuremberg and are you a islamic terrorist no? Similarly there's still increased rules if you have been to particular places Those are widely different questions. These people were affirmatively not war criminals nor wanted by Nuremberg. And they were not equivalent of islamic terrorists either - the equivalent of that would be membership in stasi or so. This would be analogical to "was you muslim" or "did you had membership in Mosque".
- psychphysic 4y ago
  Seems similar to me, people perceive questions differently I guess
  - watwut 4y ago
    This is not about subjective perception. This is literally about what words mean. You being performatively against communist party does not make "member of a communist party in eastern block" the same situation as "islamic terrorist". And it does not make them war criminals either, you need to engage in war for that in the first place. It does not make them wanted by Nuremberg either, because Nuremberg never asked for them.
- Symbiote 4y ago
  Nowadays there's the question "Have you ever violated any law related to possessing, using, or distributing illegal drugs?" [1]. As late as 2018, they were asking about communist party membership [2] [1] https://www.nnuimmigration.com/esta-questions/ https://www.nnuimmigration.com/esta-questions/ [2] https://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/DS-0156.pdf https://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/DS-01...
  - ant6n 4y ago
    The earliest i94 I could find is from perhaps 2004 [1], and it doesn’t ask about membership of a communist party. It’s funny, I feel like I remember answering that question, and my first trip was 2002. it’s not an easy thing to search for nowadays when Google doesn’t quite work anymore and the old web is very hidden. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20040708201659/http://immihelp.com:80/forms/i-94w.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20040708201659/http://immihelp.c...

watwut 4y ago

> Not that different today, includes are you a war criminal or wanted by Nuremberg and are you a islamic terrorist no? Similarly there's still increased rules if you have been to particular places Those are widely different questions. These people were affirmatively not war criminals nor wanted by Nuremberg. And they were not equivalent of islamic terrorists either - the equivalent of that would be membership in stasi or so. This would be analogical to "was you muslim" or "did you had membership in Mosque".

psychphysic 4y ago
Seems similar to me, people perceive questions differently I guess
- watwut 4y ago
  This is not about subjective perception. This is literally about what words mean. You being performatively against communist party does not make "member of a communist party in eastern block" the same situation as "islamic terrorist". And it does not make them war criminals either, you need to engage in war for that in the first place. It does not make them wanted by Nuremberg either, because Nuremberg never asked for them.
Symbiote 4y ago
Nowadays there's the question "Have you ever violated any law related to possessing, using, or distributing illegal drugs?" [1]. As late as 2018, they were asking about communist party membership [2] [1] https://www.nnuimmigration.com/esta-questions/ https://www.nnuimmigration.com/esta-questions/ [2] https://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/DS-0156.pdf https://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/DS-01...
- ant6n 4y ago
  The earliest i94 I could find is from perhaps 2004 [1], and it doesn’t ask about membership of a communist party. It’s funny, I feel like I remember answering that question, and my first trip was 2002. it’s not an easy thing to search for nowadays when Google doesn’t quite work anymore and the old web is very hidden. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20040708201659/http://immihelp.com:80/forms/i-94w.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20040708201659/http://immihelp.c...