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Meat and milk are basic foods.
by jslql 4y ago
Meat and milk are basic foods.
- colinsane 4y agoif these things are to be basic, then what constitutes a non “basic” food?
- theshrike79 4y agoTraditional or basic? Meat wasn't a staple food 100 years ago, it was too expensive for regular people. Same with milk, if you didn't own a cow, you just didn't drink it. You drank some sort of ale.
- diydsp 4y agoAnd their livestock werent perpetuately pregnant. They made abt 1/10th the milk they do know.
- acdha 4y agoMy grandfather was a kid at the end of the Great Depression. One of the stories which blew my mind growing up was that he ate beef basically twice a year, when his cousins on a small dairy farm culled the herd. His mother kept chickens, so they had eggs - to the point that as an adult he never eats them because he got sick of them by the time he graduated from high school.
- theshrike79 4y agoYep, (western) people are acting like meat is a human right and a staple day to day food. My grandparents were the first generation in my country who started to have regular access to meat after WW2. Before that it was either a rare thing and much of the "meat" they ate was offal. Pea soup was 99% peas and a small chunk of smoked meat added for flavour. Meanwhile billions of people live perfectly normal lives eating legumes (beans, chickpeas, peanuts) for protein.
- spicymaki 4y agoI think some people misconstrue traditional with today's sensationalized Food TV marketing. Which tradition are we even talking about? The world has never had this much access to food. We eat like almost every culture's royal family every night of the week, and pretend like it always been this way.
- j-pb 4y agoAnd vegan alternatives are not? Meat was a luxury product not eaten every day for most of history and still is in most parts of the world. Given the environmental impact of Meat and Diary in terms of CO2, Methane, Water usage, and Deforestation we should heavily reconsider our nonchalant view of them as a cheap commodity.
- watwut 4y agoSame goes for vegetables. That being said, animal milk drinking is not something new at all. And in "traditional" setup, milk availability is massive improvement nutritionally/health wise over no milk.
- j-pb 4y agoThat's a false dichotomy. These days we put so many nutrients artificially into the feed of livestock, e.g. B12, that we might as well skip the whole livestock step and just take a vitamin pill every morning. Most people have a vitamin-D deficiency, most vegans that I know of at least take care of making sure that they get enough supplements.
- KaiserPro 4y ago> And in "traditional" setup, milk availability is massive improvement nutritionally/health wise over no milk. only if you can process lactose. A large amount of people can't. Plus, "traditional" farming is highly dependent on location.
- fallingknife 4y agoInvention of agriculture through industrial revolution is not most of history. Meat would have been very much an ordinary thing to a hunter gatherer.
- ben_w 4y agoDairy is much less of an environmental concern than beef (not sure about chicken). If the concern is animal welfare, then yes it's still a horror story in many ways, but not everyone who is pushing away from meat has the same reasons.
- timeon 4y agoThere is also lot of other food.