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Tough choice. Weird goo that was grown in a lab by people that have no idea what they're doing OR natural food we've been eating since the dawn of time.

SiempreViernes 4y ago
The idea that the American beef industry produces anything like the meat primeval hunter gatherers subsisted on is hilarious!
spicymaki 4y ago
> natural food we've been eating since the dawn of time. I don't know if you seen the factory farms that produce chicken and beef? There is nothing natural from the dawn of time from that. They are loaded with antibiotics, and they are naturally selected for maximum meat production. Deli meats and hotdogs sure are natural products made of some amalgamation of random animal parts. Some people speak as if everyone procures their meat from Eden's organic farm in New Zealand where the animals are hugged to death. It really is not the case for most people.
- jononomo 4y ago
  Beef is not factory-farmed. All cows are raised grazing on grass and are taken to feedlots for fattening only just prior to slaughter. Cows don't go through the torture that chickens and pigs go through.
  - Attrecomet 4y ago
    > All cows Entirely untrue.
  - spicymaki 4y ago
    > Beef is not factory-farmed. That seems to go against common knowledge. Cows spend about a few months to a year on a feed lot which is most likely a concentrated feed lot (CAFO is a factory farm). Veal seems to be especially cruel. Dairy cows seem to have it pretty bad for around five years from start to finish.
    - jononomo 4y ago
      I know -- common knowledge on this subject is atrocious. Also, being fed on a lot is not the same as being "factory farmed". It sounds like you just equate "raising cattle" with "factory farming".
vore 4y ago
What makes you think they have no idea what they're doing? There's a lot more weird goo we eat all the time, after all.
californical 4y ago
I’m vegetarian (several years now) and I agree with you. Meat has its problems, but our bodies make very good use of it. Long list of chemicals with unproven value? We have a bad track record with trying to engineer our own ‘healthy’ food. See: margarine for example. Impossible/beyond is great as a vegetarian as a rare treat (different flavors than normal veggies, loaded with umami — I don’t love them or anything but there are some recipes they work well with). I might have it once every couple months or so, often when a thoughtful friend invites me to their bbq and brings some impossible patties so I’m not left out... But to actually use it as a meat replacement, like for several meals per week? It feels like we’re going to look back on that in 30 years like we do now for margarine. PS: there are a million delicious vegetarian dishes that don’t need any fake meat, you kind of stop wanting the impossible/beyond stuff after you’re vegetarian for a little while
- tannhaeuser 4y ago
  > See: margarine for example What's wrong with it for reducing cholesterol intake? Butter has gotten very expensive, too.
  - jhasse 4y ago
    A long time ago Margarine contained lots trans fat. Nowadays it's fine, but I think that's what OP meant.
  - snapcaster 4y ago
    it had tons of trans fat when it came out, also cholesterol intake isn't important. Dietary cholesterol == bad is just a myth
schoolornot 4y ago
It's the margarine of meat.

SiempreViernes 4y ago

The idea that the American beef industry produces anything like the meat primeval hunter gatherers subsisted on is hilarious!

spicymaki 4y ago

> natural food we've been eating since the dawn of time. I don't know if you seen the factory farms that produce chicken and beef? There is nothing natural from the dawn of time from that. They are loaded with antibiotics, and they are naturally selected for maximum meat production. Deli meats and hotdogs sure are natural products made of some amalgamation of random animal parts. Some people speak as if everyone procures their meat from Eden's organic farm in New Zealand where the animals are hugged to death. It really is not the case for most people.

jononomo 4y ago
Beef is not factory-farmed. All cows are raised grazing on grass and are taken to feedlots for fattening only just prior to slaughter. Cows don't go through the torture that chickens and pigs go through.
- Attrecomet 4y ago
  > All cows Entirely untrue.
- spicymaki 4y ago
  > Beef is not factory-farmed. That seems to go against common knowledge. Cows spend about a few months to a year on a feed lot which is most likely a concentrated feed lot (CAFO is a factory farm). Veal seems to be especially cruel. Dairy cows seem to have it pretty bad for around five years from start to finish.
  - jononomo 4y ago
    I know -- common knowledge on this subject is atrocious. Also, being fed on a lot is not the same as being "factory farmed". It sounds like you just equate "raising cattle" with "factory farming".

vore 4y ago

What makes you think they have no idea what they're doing? There's a lot more weird goo we eat all the time, after all.

californical 4y ago

I’m vegetarian (several years now) and I agree with you. Meat has its problems, but our bodies make very good use of it. Long list of chemicals with unproven value? We have a bad track record with trying to engineer our own ‘healthy’ food. See: margarine for example. Impossible/beyond is great as a vegetarian as a rare treat (different flavors than normal veggies, loaded with umami — I don’t love them or anything but there are some recipes they work well with). I might have it once every couple months or so, often when a thoughtful friend invites me to their bbq and brings some impossible patties so I’m not left out... But to actually use it as a meat replacement, like for several meals per week? It feels like we’re going to look back on that in 30 years like we do now for margarine. PS: there are a million delicious vegetarian dishes that don’t need any fake meat, you kind of stop wanting the impossible/beyond stuff after you’re vegetarian for a little while

tannhaeuser 4y ago
> See: margarine for example What's wrong with it for reducing cholesterol intake? Butter has gotten very expensive, too.
- jhasse 4y ago
  A long time ago Margarine contained lots trans fat. Nowadays it's fine, but I think that's what OP meant.
- snapcaster 4y ago
  it had tons of trans fat when it came out, also cholesterol intake isn't important. Dietary cholesterol == bad is just a myth

schoolornot 4y ago

It's the margarine of meat.