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That's a misunderstanding. Fake meat products don't contain "a ton of additives".

raghavkukreti 4y ago
Water, soy protein concentrate, coconut oil, sunflower oil, natural flavors, 2% or less of potato protein, methylcellulose, yeast extract, cultured dextrose, food starch modified, soy leghemoglobin, salt, mixed tocopherols (antioxidant), soy protein isolate, zinc gluconate, thiamine hydrochloride (vitamin B1), niacin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), and vitamin B12. This is the list of ingredients in an impossible burger. Just so it can somewhat (barely) mimic the taste and texture of actual meat, for what? Shoving myself full of GMO produce and preservatives? It's much more fulfilling and better for your own health to buy fresh produce, make your own umami rich, organic blends and eat them and not strive to mimic something it cannot be.
- diydsp 4y ago
  Almost all of those are protein and vitamins - good for you. Then there are some carbs. Not horrible. Even sunflower oil gets a bad rap bc it's assoc w proc foods but it's fine just don't get it too hot or overconsume: https://www.webmd.com/diet/sunflower-oil-good-for-you https://www.webmd.com/diet/sunflower-oil-good-for-you Coconut oil's sat fat is highly contested and mixed. Very hard to untangle its effects but it seems to be nonlinear: A little seems okay.
  - pfdietz 4y ago
    Excess vitamins may in fact be bad for you in some situations. Studies using antioxidants A, C, and E found they can accelerate cancer growth.
    - bawolff 4y ago
      Wouldn't most food accelerate cancer growth? Cancer needs nutrients to grow the same way normal cells do.
- abliefern 4y ago
  So you're claiming GMO is bad for your health? Wow. And preservatives? Can you point out the preservatives in the ingredient list? I can't see any. Except maybe salt... Really not convinced at all.
- the-smug-one 4y ago
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  - thiht 4y ago
    > That looks like a completely reasonable list of ingredients 22 ingredients in a steak is not reasonable, whatever the ingredients are.
  - skipkey 4y ago
    “Natural flavors” frequently used to mean, “this product has a small amount of MSG in it, but we don’t want to list that”. At least in the US. I am not sure if the FDA regulations still allow that though.
    - AstralStorm 4y ago
      Not in EU it doesn't, you cannot omit an E list substance. But Impossible still has "natural flavors" on the ingredients list. This happens to be mostly apple juice. Caramelizes and produces the right amount of tangy taste.
  - raspberry1337 4y ago
    What looks reasonable to you might not look reasonable to someone else, like someone that strives to avoid seed oils and other industrial products and live above 90 years of age.
    - the-smug-one 4y ago
      Haha, do you believe that olive oil isn't made on a large ("industrial") scale? Or lard, or tallow, for that matter. Man, this is just more FUD, scientists aren't arguing about this, shitty fitness influencers are. But hey, I do hope that you live to 90 or above, cool goal. I just hope you don't waste too much time listening to Joe Rogan. I'm not gonna waste more of my precious (and I guess to you very short) life on this. For science based fitness advice I like Stronger by Science, but I've also heard that Barbell Medicine is good. Cheers.
- kzrdude 4y ago
  It fits the definition of ultraprocessed food since fats and proteins are modified (that's sort of the whole point, to create a new texture). Which to me is the downside of a lot of the "replacement" foods. Industrial, processed food, that is pretty far away from whole foods. I'd prefer to just eat whole foods instead, vegetarian or not.
  - abliefern 4y ago
    Do you have anything at all to back up the claim that modified proteins and fats as found in fake meat products are unhealthy? I can't find anything. This seems like superstition.

Water, soy protein concentrate, coconut oil, sunflower oil, natural flavors, 2% or less of potato protein, methylcellulose, yeast extract, cultured dextrose, food starch modified, soy leghemoglobin, salt, mixed tocopherols (antioxidant), soy protein isolate, zinc gluconate, thiamine hydrochloride (vitamin B1), niacin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), and vitamin B12. This is the list of ingredients in an impossible burger. Just so it can somewhat (barely) mimic the taste and texture of actual meat, for what? Shoving myself full of GMO produce and preservatives? It's much more fulfilling and better for your own health to buy fresh produce, make your own umami rich, organic blends and eat them and not strive to mimic something it cannot be.

diydsp 4y ago
Almost all of those are protein and vitamins - good for you. Then there are some carbs. Not horrible. Even sunflower oil gets a bad rap bc it's assoc w proc foods but it's fine just don't get it too hot or overconsume: https://www.webmd.com/diet/sunflower-oil-good-for-you https://www.webmd.com/diet/sunflower-oil-good-for-you Coconut oil's sat fat is highly contested and mixed. Very hard to untangle its effects but it seems to be nonlinear: A little seems okay.
- pfdietz 4y ago
  Excess vitamins may in fact be bad for you in some situations. Studies using antioxidants A, C, and E found they can accelerate cancer growth.
  - bawolff 4y ago
    Wouldn't most food accelerate cancer growth? Cancer needs nutrients to grow the same way normal cells do.
abliefern 4y ago
So you're claiming GMO is bad for your health? Wow. And preservatives? Can you point out the preservatives in the ingredient list? I can't see any. Except maybe salt... Really not convinced at all.
the-smug-one 4y ago
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- thiht 4y ago
  > That looks like a completely reasonable list of ingredients 22 ingredients in a steak is not reasonable, whatever the ingredients are.
- skipkey 4y ago
  “Natural flavors” frequently used to mean, “this product has a small amount of MSG in it, but we don’t want to list that”. At least in the US. I am not sure if the FDA regulations still allow that though.
  - AstralStorm 4y ago
    Not in EU it doesn't, you cannot omit an E list substance. But Impossible still has "natural flavors" on the ingredients list. This happens to be mostly apple juice. Caramelizes and produces the right amount of tangy taste.
- raspberry1337 4y ago
  What looks reasonable to you might not look reasonable to someone else, like someone that strives to avoid seed oils and other industrial products and live above 90 years of age.
  - the-smug-one 4y ago
    Haha, do you believe that olive oil isn't made on a large ("industrial") scale? Or lard, or tallow, for that matter. Man, this is just more FUD, scientists aren't arguing about this, shitty fitness influencers are. But hey, I do hope that you live to 90 or above, cool goal. I just hope you don't waste too much time listening to Joe Rogan. I'm not gonna waste more of my precious (and I guess to you very short) life on this. For science based fitness advice I like Stronger by Science, but I've also heard that Barbell Medicine is good. Cheers.
kzrdude 4y ago
It fits the definition of ultraprocessed food since fats and proteins are modified (that's sort of the whole point, to create a new texture). Which to me is the downside of a lot of the "replacement" foods. Industrial, processed food, that is pretty far away from whole foods. I'd prefer to just eat whole foods instead, vegetarian or not.
- abliefern 4y ago
  Do you have anything at all to back up the claim that modified proteins and fats as found in fake meat products are unhealthy? I can't find anything. This seems like superstition.