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Felt the same exact way. I’ve tried multiple times to give Firefox containers a try, but the UX is just horribly designed. So much so that I don’t think they ev

by hysan 4y ago

Felt the same exact way. I’ve tried multiple times to give Firefox containers a try, but the UX is just horribly designed. So much so that I don’t think they even care about it as a feature. It feels more like a publicity stunt. If a browser could deliver a usable container experience, I would instantly switch to it.

aeturnum 4y ago
Oh really? I find them excellent. I don't know how you're trying to use them - but I have a "work" window, which opens new containers in the "work" container (which has all my work accounts). It's a great way to keep accounts separate and it's one of my favorite parts of Firefox.
- hysan 4y ago
  The last time I tried, which was a while back, two things that bothered me: - there was no way to make CMD/CTRL+T open a new tab in the same container context as the one you were currently in. To me, this seems like an obvious UX flaw. If you’re browsing in a container, the actions you’re doing should keep you in that container unless you consciously want to switch. - building on that, there was no option to right click and open a link in a different container. These two features would make container use feel far more natural, and likely make adoption much easier. If those two features have been implemented, I will give Firefox and containers another go. If not, then I’d like to know what your workflow is and why it is a more natural UX. Bonus points: make the first option configurable. Extra bonus points, for the second feature, have a right click option to open in a new container. Edit: since I know I bookmarked it, I went and dug up the bug report for that first feature: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1245262 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1245262 It’s 7 years old and still open. A quick glance shows that discussion is still ongoing today, so I assume it isn’t possible. Given how long it has been actively discussed, I don’t think it would be far fetched to say that my expected use case is not odd.
  - vianneychevalie 4y ago
    I use Alt+F+B+Down arrow to browse my containers when opening a new tab. For the most frequent ones, I use Ctrl+Maj+1/2/3/4, etc., I know which ones they are. Those shortcuts are by default, I haven't had to tweak anything, and although they're not standard browser shortcuts, I prefer that option to a remapping of standards.
  - shrikant 4y ago
    > - there was no way to make CMD/CTRL+T open a new tab in the same container context as the one you were currently in. To me, this seems like an obvious UX flaw. If you’re browsing in a container, the actions you’re doing should keep you in that container unless you consciously want to switch. There's still no quick, default shortcut for this, but you can use this add-on to give you that functionality: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/easy-container-shortcuts/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/easy-containe... FWIW, the main add-on (Multi Account Containers) lets you do Cmd + Shift + {number} to open a new tab in a specific container -- but I admit that's still some cognitive overhead compared to just doing something like Cmd + Opt + T to open a tab in the same container as your current tab. > - building on that, there was no option to right click and open a link in a different container. This is absolutely in the main add-on now, and I use it regularly!
  - aeturnum 4y ago
    My flow is window-centric - there's a "new container tab" option that will give you a tab in the selected container. Any new tab opened while looking at that tab will be in the same container. That's how I maintain my "work window" - but the specific feature you want (which seems sensible) isn't possible as far as I know. As others have said, you can right click -> open in container!
- xdfgh1112 4y ago
  Worth noting that Chrome has multiple profile support too, so you can keep work separate if you like. I don't think it's quite as powerful as Firefox containers though.
black_puppydog 4y ago
Folks, I realize it must be frustrating that it doesn't fit your use cases, and I agree the "multiple accounts for the same site" use case isn't well covered, but that they're "unusable" is simply not true. I for one (but apparently also many others) have been very happily using them as they are. For most of the sites I use them for I have exactly one account and would like to have zero. Essentially, if I make a container for you're website, you've made it to my personal shit list. :)
- Vinnl 4y ago
  > Essentially, if I make a container for you're website, you've made it to my personal shit list. :) Ha, I'm the other way around: all websites go into temporary containers, and if I make a container for your website, it's a privilege that I'm allowing you to remember me.

by hysan 4y ago

aeturnum 4y ago

Oh really? I find them excellent. I don't know how you're trying to use them - but I have a "work" window, which opens new containers in the "work" container (which has all my work accounts). It's a great way to keep accounts separate and it's one of my favorite parts of Firefox.

hysan 4y ago
The last time I tried, which was a while back, two things that bothered me: - there was no way to make CMD/CTRL+T open a new tab in the same container context as the one you were currently in. To me, this seems like an obvious UX flaw. If you’re browsing in a container, the actions you’re doing should keep you in that container unless you consciously want to switch. - building on that, there was no option to right click and open a link in a different container. These two features would make container use feel far more natural, and likely make adoption much easier. If those two features have been implemented, I will give Firefox and containers another go. If not, then I’d like to know what your workflow is and why it is a more natural UX. Bonus points: make the first option configurable. Extra bonus points, for the second feature, have a right click option to open in a new container. Edit: since I know I bookmarked it, I went and dug up the bug report for that first feature: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1245262 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1245262 It’s 7 years old and still open. A quick glance shows that discussion is still ongoing today, so I assume it isn’t possible. Given how long it has been actively discussed, I don’t think it would be far fetched to say that my expected use case is not odd.
- vianneychevalie 4y ago
  I use Alt+F+B+Down arrow to browse my containers when opening a new tab. For the most frequent ones, I use Ctrl+Maj+1/2/3/4, etc., I know which ones they are. Those shortcuts are by default, I haven't had to tweak anything, and although they're not standard browser shortcuts, I prefer that option to a remapping of standards.
- shrikant 4y ago
  > - there was no way to make CMD/CTRL+T open a new tab in the same container context as the one you were currently in. To me, this seems like an obvious UX flaw. If you’re browsing in a container, the actions you’re doing should keep you in that container unless you consciously want to switch. There's still no quick, default shortcut for this, but you can use this add-on to give you that functionality: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/easy-container-shortcuts/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/easy-containe... FWIW, the main add-on (Multi Account Containers) lets you do Cmd + Shift + {number} to open a new tab in a specific container -- but I admit that's still some cognitive overhead compared to just doing something like Cmd + Opt + T to open a tab in the same container as your current tab. > - building on that, there was no option to right click and open a link in a different container. This is absolutely in the main add-on now, and I use it regularly!
- aeturnum 4y ago
  My flow is window-centric - there's a "new container tab" option that will give you a tab in the selected container. Any new tab opened while looking at that tab will be in the same container. That's how I maintain my "work window" - but the specific feature you want (which seems sensible) isn't possible as far as I know. As others have said, you can right click -> open in container!
xdfgh1112 4y ago
Worth noting that Chrome has multiple profile support too, so you can keep work separate if you like. I don't think it's quite as powerful as Firefox containers though.

black_puppydog 4y ago

Folks, I realize it must be frustrating that it doesn't fit your use cases, and I agree the "multiple accounts for the same site" use case isn't well covered, but that they're "unusable" is simply not true. I for one (but apparently also many others) have been very happily using them as they are. For most of the sites I use them for I have exactly one account and would like to have zero. Essentially, if I make a container for you're website, you've made it to my personal shit list. :)

Vinnl 4y ago
> Essentially, if I make a container for you're website, you've made it to my personal shit list. :) Ha, I'm the other way around: all websites go into temporary containers, and if I make a container for your website, it's a privilege that I'm allowing you to remember me.