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Jackie Chan, the HK actor, filmmaker, martial artist, and stuntman, ended films with a blooper real. It showed stunts being practiced, and failing, with injurie

Jackie Chan, the HK actor, filmmaker, martial artist, and stuntman, ended films with a blooper real. It showed stunts being practiced, and failing, with injuries. A reality check, a "what you've seen today was staged", a "don't think this was real, and then make poor life choices". I liked the integrity of that. Lots of people only see BD's demo videos, and not their making-of videos. Or don't have the expertise to interpret those. So each time BD does another demo video, I think of Chan's films, and wonder if BD might do better.

thih9 4y ago
Agreed. The article itself also mentions it: > As ever, it’s important to note that these videos are rigorously planned and structured, with falls and mistakes edited out.
scotty79 4y ago
Why did you use his private, real name in context of talking about his art in which he used pseudonym? Did he recently stated he prefers to be called by his name rather than pseudonym?
- mncharity 4y ago
  Thanks - I edited to drop the real name. "Foreign" names often get a "oh no, Americans won't be able to handle that" variant name for use in US releases. So when quickly googling for the comment, when I saw the wikipedia page had another name up front, I included it.
  - scotty79 4y ago
    Thanks for explanation. I wasn't critiquing you in any way. I was just curious about the reason.
  - eozoon 4y ago
    FWIW, no one use his "real name" even here in HK. He has a chinese pseudonym that most people use, but even Jackie Chan is much more widely known/used than his actual legal name. That was kinda like calling 50 cents "Curtis James Jackson III".
    - trompetenaccoun 4y ago
      He's also known as 'traitor' in Hong Kong, that's his second name.
      - eozoon 4y ago
        And being a general pos, horrible husband/father amongst other things... I usually bit my tongue when westerners fanboy about him since I don't want to be the party pooper but yeah, we don't really like him here. The blooper reels were neat, but that was a common feature in HK action films at the time and not really about integrity, since I don't think the audience were expected to believe any of the action were real.
        ManuelKiessling 4y ago
        Well, the action WAS real, that's the point, no?
        daqhris 4y ago
        I'm not a westerner fanboy of his. I am a black African. Met him and worked next him on a movie set in early 2016. I've never seen a major actor act out in the good interest of a black foreigner, inexperienced in film, speaking unoptimal mandarin. My encounters with him were mainly professional, in the span of 6 months. Hard for me to judge his character in a bad way. He might an overworker who shoulders the image of an entire nation's film industry. But he is success is well-earned. His later alignment with the CCP during the HK protests angered me a bit. But I had my fair share of unfair treatment by the CCP. I know they can be cruel. But Jackie is no bad boy, I swear.
        eozoon 4y ago
        Good to know he was professional people he work with - for what it is worth, I am not saying he is not good at what he does, and whatever personal shortcomings he might have, it's not about his work. That's why I usually hold my tongue when people praise his work, there's no reason his personal believes should affect people's enjoyment of his work (I'd do the same for people enjoying Orson Scott Card's books, for example). I only bought it up in response to someone else mentioning it. That said, his weird political stance is not a new thing, and not under duress from the CCP. He had been saying things like "freedom is not good for Chinese people" "Chinese people need to be controlled" since around 2009.
- technothrasher 4y ago
  Wait, did he recently state he prefers to be called by his Anglicized name rather than his Chinese name? Where are you getting the "private" context from? He goes by, and has gone by, quite a few different names. I'm not sure why you called out the previous poster for using that particular one. Perhaps there's something I'm missing?
  - scotty79 4y ago
    I didn't call out anyone for anything. I just asked because I was curious. For me it's quite reasonable that if someone creates pseudonym for his artistic work then that's how they want to be called, especially in context of that work. So I was curious if there's some (recent?) exception to that rule for this specific performer.
gregmac 4y ago
> A reality check, a "what you've seen today was staged", a "don't think this was real, and then make poor life choices". I liked the integrity of that. I think it shows something different from that: "the stunt you saw was real". As in: there were no wires, camera tricks, editing, or visual or special effects. Just someone extremely disciplined and good at what they do, trying many times to get it perfect. I don't think the only thing preventing people who watch his movies thinking they could fight a gang of people using a 10'step ladder [1] is the blooper real.. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrRFzwPE0d4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrRFzwPE0d4
fnordpiglet 4y ago
They are still resolving the lawsuits from the actor who was maimed when the robot threw the tool bag at him at 100mph.
- ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
  A Google search for "actor maimed by robot lawsuit toolbag" leads back here. What event are you talking about, more specifically?
  - philwelch 4y ago
    It was a joke, implying that this happened to a previous actor on this demo video.
coding123 4y ago
It's so hard to watch the Chan blooper reals when he gets hurt. I always cringe when he gets hit by something by accident.
herpderperator 4y ago
Just to be clear, they do have making-of videos. You can see the one here for the recent Atlas demonstration[0]. I've skipped to a part where Atlas falls while trying to walk the plank during their testing phase. [0] https://youtu.be/XPVC4IyRTG8?t=418 https://youtu.be/XPVC4IyRTG8?t=418

thih9 4y ago

Agreed. The article itself also mentions it: > As ever, it’s important to note that these videos are rigorously planned and structured, with falls and mistakes edited out.

scotty79 4y ago

Why did you use his private, real name in context of talking about his art in which he used pseudonym? Did he recently stated he prefers to be called by his name rather than pseudonym?

mncharity 4y ago
Thanks - I edited to drop the real name. "Foreign" names often get a "oh no, Americans won't be able to handle that" variant name for use in US releases. So when quickly googling for the comment, when I saw the wikipedia page had another name up front, I included it.
- scotty79 4y ago
  Thanks for explanation. I wasn't critiquing you in any way. I was just curious about the reason.
- eozoon 4y ago
  FWIW, no one use his "real name" even here in HK. He has a chinese pseudonym that most people use, but even Jackie Chan is much more widely known/used than his actual legal name. That was kinda like calling 50 cents "Curtis James Jackson III".
  - trompetenaccoun 4y ago
    He's also known as 'traitor' in Hong Kong, that's his second name.
    - eozoon 4y ago
      And being a general pos, horrible husband/father amongst other things... I usually bit my tongue when westerners fanboy about him since I don't want to be the party pooper but yeah, we don't really like him here. The blooper reels were neat, but that was a common feature in HK action films at the time and not really about integrity, since I don't think the audience were expected to believe any of the action were real.
      - ManuelKiessling 4y ago
        Well, the action WAS real, that's the point, no?
      - daqhris 4y ago
        I'm not a westerner fanboy of his. I am a black African. Met him and worked next him on a movie set in early 2016. I've never seen a major actor act out in the good interest of a black foreigner, inexperienced in film, speaking unoptimal mandarin. My encounters with him were mainly professional, in the span of 6 months. Hard for me to judge his character in a bad way. He might an overworker who shoulders the image of an entire nation's film industry. But he is success is well-earned. His later alignment with the CCP during the HK protests angered me a bit. But I had my fair share of unfair treatment by the CCP. I know they can be cruel. But Jackie is no bad boy, I swear.
        eozoon 4y ago
        Good to know he was professional people he work with - for what it is worth, I am not saying he is not good at what he does, and whatever personal shortcomings he might have, it's not about his work. That's why I usually hold my tongue when people praise his work, there's no reason his personal believes should affect people's enjoyment of his work (I'd do the same for people enjoying Orson Scott Card's books, for example). I only bought it up in response to someone else mentioning it. That said, his weird political stance is not a new thing, and not under duress from the CCP. He had been saying things like "freedom is not good for Chinese people" "Chinese people need to be controlled" since around 2009.
technothrasher 4y ago
Wait, did he recently state he prefers to be called by his Anglicized name rather than his Chinese name? Where are you getting the "private" context from? He goes by, and has gone by, quite a few different names. I'm not sure why you called out the previous poster for using that particular one. Perhaps there's something I'm missing?
- scotty79 4y ago
  I didn't call out anyone for anything. I just asked because I was curious. For me it's quite reasonable that if someone creates pseudonym for his artistic work then that's how they want to be called, especially in context of that work. So I was curious if there's some (recent?) exception to that rule for this specific performer.

gregmac 4y ago

> A reality check, a "what you've seen today was staged", a "don't think this was real, and then make poor life choices". I liked the integrity of that. I think it shows something different from that: "the stunt you saw was real". As in: there were no wires, camera tricks, editing, or visual or special effects. Just someone extremely disciplined and good at what they do, trying many times to get it perfect. I don't think the only thing preventing people who watch his movies thinking they could fight a gang of people using a 10'step ladder [1] is the blooper real.. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrRFzwPE0d4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrRFzwPE0d4

fnordpiglet 4y ago

They are still resolving the lawsuits from the actor who was maimed when the robot threw the tool bag at him at 100mph.

ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
A Google search for "actor maimed by robot lawsuit toolbag" leads back here. What event are you talking about, more specifically?
- philwelch 4y ago
  It was a joke, implying that this happened to a previous actor on this demo video.

coding123 4y ago

It's so hard to watch the Chan blooper reals when he gets hurt. I always cringe when he gets hit by something by accident.

herpderperator 4y ago

Just to be clear, they do have making-of videos. You can see the one here for the recent Atlas demonstration[0]. I've skipped to a part where Atlas falls while trying to walk the plank during their testing phase. [0] https://youtu.be/XPVC4IyRTG8?t=418 https://youtu.be/XPVC4IyRTG8?t=418