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Can you please give me some sort of published papers or something empirical to demonstrate that we have any control over this to a magnitude that matters? As f

Can you please give me some sort of published papers or something empirical to demonstrate that we have any control over this to a magnitude that matters? As far as i’ve ever seen, we have no mechanism to cool the planet currently. Where does the idea that we have control come from? What’s the science?

melling 4y ago
We aren’t trying to cool the planet, we are trying to prevent it from warming by not increasing greenhouse gases. This has been discussed for about 5 decades. After 50 years, I’m not sure why we aren’t discussing the same issue.
- thinking4real 4y ago
  That’s about what i’ve come to expect from this climate stuff - chest puffing, with no hard science to back it up I was asking for a source, not yet another vague rambling
- aquarium87 4y ago
  It's simple. All predictions and models have failed to date. They have 1000+ climate models, and every couple years take and promote the best performing ones to give the illusion of credibility. In reality, past performance is not an indicator of future performance. A more simplistic gold standard approach says just look at sea level rise, and it's relatively flat at about 3mm per year, or a foot per century. The entire climate industry relies on unproven, highly speculative feedback loops that unsuccessfully attempt to model the effects of moisture in the air.
  - melling 4y ago
    NOPE, THAT WOULD BE WRONG! In fact, even Exxon had good models 50 years ago https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/12/business/exxon-climate-models-global-warming/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/12/business/exxon-climate-mo... Remember, when people like yourself couldn’t imagine how 1 million Americans could die from coronavirus? “more people died from blah blah blah, than coronavirus “ That went on for about a year, then the message turned to be “there’s nothing we could’ve done “
    - thinking4real 4y ago
      Ngl, for someone who’s gloating so much - you sent some crummy cnn article which didn’t show any theory or model, much less one being correct

melling 4y ago

We aren’t trying to cool the planet, we are trying to prevent it from warming by not increasing greenhouse gases. This has been discussed for about 5 decades. After 50 years, I’m not sure why we aren’t discussing the same issue.

thinking4real 4y ago
That’s about what i’ve come to expect from this climate stuff - chest puffing, with no hard science to back it up I was asking for a source, not yet another vague rambling
aquarium87 4y ago
It's simple. All predictions and models have failed to date. They have 1000+ climate models, and every couple years take and promote the best performing ones to give the illusion of credibility. In reality, past performance is not an indicator of future performance. A more simplistic gold standard approach says just look at sea level rise, and it's relatively flat at about 3mm per year, or a foot per century. The entire climate industry relies on unproven, highly speculative feedback loops that unsuccessfully attempt to model the effects of moisture in the air.
- melling 4y ago
  NOPE, THAT WOULD BE WRONG! In fact, even Exxon had good models 50 years ago https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/12/business/exxon-climate-models-global-warming/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/12/business/exxon-climate-mo... Remember, when people like yourself couldn’t imagine how 1 million Americans could die from coronavirus? “more people died from blah blah blah, than coronavirus “ That went on for about a year, then the message turned to be “there’s nothing we could’ve done “
  - thinking4real 4y ago
    Ngl, for someone who’s gloating so much - you sent some crummy cnn article which didn’t show any theory or model, much less one being correct