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Many of us need a 4DWW - Four Day Work Week. I am consistently frustrated that I don't have enough energy after work to spend time on my personal projects, so

by yboris 4y ago

Many of us need a 4DWW - Four Day Work Week. I am consistently frustrated that I don't have enough energy after work to spend time on my personal projects, so I wait for the weekend, at which point I just want to rest. Two-day weekends are not enough to balance life and work!

shanecp 4y ago
Just curious, if 4DWW is your goal, can't you ask your employer to give a 4DWW with a 20% pay cut? Then both of you can be happy. Or do you want a 4DWW with the same pay?
- yboris 4y ago
  I asked about 20% pay cut and they don't do it. There's a cookie-cutter full time position, and nothing else. I suspect part of it could be stupid laws around America's insane healthcare bullshit, but I don't know.
- lm28469 4y ago
  LPT: in Germany any companies with more than 15 employees more or less have to accept your request for part time work
esskay 4y ago
Try telling that to management. Even if you put the undisputable facts and statistics of how successful it's been in recent trials (the UK one for example was an overwhelming success) they still come up with excuses. "Clients wont accept it", "We'll get less work done", "It wont work for us", "We'll look at it in the future". They'll never learn. And for any manager reading this, no, there is absolutely nothing special about your individual situation that means it wont work for you. Stop lying to yourself and your staff.
- bluefirebrand 4y ago
  My company piloted a four day work week last summer. Two whole months of four day weeks. They gathered the data. They saw productivity was good. Then they didn't adopt it full time It makes my blood boil thinking about it.
  - Viliam1234 4y ago
    Just reading this makes me want to scream. It is similar with remote work. During covid it suddenly became possible. Productivity sometimes even increased, because people had fewer sick days (in open spaces viruses spread like wildfire). Now that covid is practically over, many companies are pushing people to return to the office. It does not matter if the team is international, so everyone only sees their colleagues on the screen. It is important for that screen to be located in the office, not at the place you choose. Yes, life could be better, but it is not, for reasons that mostly do not make sense.
    - bluefirebrand 4y ago
      It's a consequence of that saying .. you know "it's impossible to get a man to believe something if their own well being requires them to believe the opposite" I think it's also just plain un-critical thinking, and ego. "The stats show one thing but I think that clearly cannot be true so I'm going to ignore them"
philmcp 4y ago
https://4dayweek.io/ https://4dayweek.io/

by yboris 4y ago

shanecp 4y ago

Just curious, if 4DWW is your goal, can't you ask your employer to give a 4DWW with a 20% pay cut? Then both of you can be happy. Or do you want a 4DWW with the same pay?

yboris 4y ago
I asked about 20% pay cut and they don't do it. There's a cookie-cutter full time position, and nothing else. I suspect part of it could be stupid laws around America's insane healthcare bullshit, but I don't know.
lm28469 4y ago
LPT: in Germany any companies with more than 15 employees more or less have to accept your request for part time work

esskay 4y ago

Try telling that to management. Even if you put the undisputable facts and statistics of how successful it's been in recent trials (the UK one for example was an overwhelming success) they still come up with excuses. "Clients wont accept it", "We'll get less work done", "It wont work for us", "We'll look at it in the future". They'll never learn. And for any manager reading this, no, there is absolutely nothing special about your individual situation that means it wont work for you. Stop lying to yourself and your staff.

bluefirebrand 4y ago
My company piloted a four day work week last summer. Two whole months of four day weeks. They gathered the data. They saw productivity was good. Then they didn't adopt it full time It makes my blood boil thinking about it.
- Viliam1234 4y ago
  Just reading this makes me want to scream. It is similar with remote work. During covid it suddenly became possible. Productivity sometimes even increased, because people had fewer sick days (in open spaces viruses spread like wildfire). Now that covid is practically over, many companies are pushing people to return to the office. It does not matter if the team is international, so everyone only sees their colleagues on the screen. It is important for that screen to be located in the office, not at the place you choose. Yes, life could be better, but it is not, for reasons that mostly do not make sense.
  - bluefirebrand 4y ago
    It's a consequence of that saying .. you know "it's impossible to get a man to believe something if their own well being requires them to believe the opposite" I think it's also just plain un-critical thinking, and ego. "The stats show one thing but I think that clearly cannot be true so I'm going to ignore them"

philmcp 4y ago

https://4dayweek.io/ https://4dayweek.io/