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Like with any promising project, what are the downsides ? How are you funded? Is speed enough of a concern to take a risk on using this vs Node ? From my exper

Like with any promising project, what are the downsides ? How are you funded? Is speed enough of a concern to take a risk on using this vs Node ? From my experience with Node your lucky if it works at all, I don't know if I'd like to add another variable when things go wrong. I can't imagine this supporting every single npm module. That said, god speed. If you can really make JavaScript fast as a complied language, I and many other JS devs will be happy.

swyx 4y ago
"Oven has raised $7m in funding led by Bucky at Kleiner Perkins with participation from Guillermo Rauch, YCombinator’s Continuity Fund and more." https://oven.sh/ https://oven.sh/
- okhuman 4y ago
  One downside: core devs only prioritize bun features which can enable use cases for running your code in their edge/hosted platform. Missing some of the other general purpose use cases that devs would want to build - which wouldn't fit into bun's flavor of hosting.
- 999900000999 4y ago
  >Oven will provide incredibly fast serverless hosting & continuous integration for backend & frontend JavaScript apps — and it will be powered by Bun Getting early funding is cool , but I'm not sold on the business model. Tons of hosting providers exist, corps are unlikely to switch meaning your stuck selling to hobbyist / small developers. That said, they just need to stay alive until aquired
  - ZephyrBlu 4y ago
    You should watch some of the interviews Jarred has given. Don't have any links, but searching "jarred sumner bun" on YT will bring some stuff up. His ideas for Bun are very different to a stock-standard hosting and he's thinking very long term. Another thing is that he intends for Bun to be a drop-in replacement. Why •wouldn't* you switch hosting providers for a free massive boost in performance?
    - 999900000999 4y ago
      >Another thing is that he intends for Bun to be a drop-in replacement. Why •wouldn't* you switch hosting providers for a free massive boost in performance? So I'm going to convince upper management to let me host our apps in a new unknown hosting provider vs the AWS contract we already likely have ? Maybe if your a CTO at a startup you could pitch this, but for the most part I'd imagine people will end up using Bun on existing hosts like AWS and Azure. Nothing stops AWS from implementing whatever makes Bun hosting faster on their own platform. Don't get me wrong, I REALLY love Bun as an idea. I'm just not sure it'll make money.
okhuman 4y ago
Bun and deno are in an arms race for nodejs compatibility in order to leverage node's vast ecosystem of libraries (think the "embrace" stage of embrace/extend/extinguish). This compatibility layer will take a long time... and will require early adopters to take more time to produce work which their nodejs counterparts can perform faster.
- culi 4y ago
  I've been using Deno for a few months and haven't run into an npm package I couldn't use yet... I feel like compatibility-wise both projects are mostly there already
  - captainmarble 4y ago
    Try AWS npm

swyx 4y ago

"Oven has raised $7m in funding led by Bucky at Kleiner Perkins with participation from Guillermo Rauch, YCombinator’s Continuity Fund and more." https://oven.sh/ https://oven.sh/

okhuman 4y ago
One downside: core devs only prioritize bun features which can enable use cases for running your code in their edge/hosted platform. Missing some of the other general purpose use cases that devs would want to build - which wouldn't fit into bun's flavor of hosting.
999900000999 4y ago
>Oven will provide incredibly fast serverless hosting & continuous integration for backend & frontend JavaScript apps — and it will be powered by Bun Getting early funding is cool , but I'm not sold on the business model. Tons of hosting providers exist, corps are unlikely to switch meaning your stuck selling to hobbyist / small developers. That said, they just need to stay alive until aquired
- ZephyrBlu 4y ago
  You should watch some of the interviews Jarred has given. Don't have any links, but searching "jarred sumner bun" on YT will bring some stuff up. His ideas for Bun are very different to a stock-standard hosting and he's thinking very long term. Another thing is that he intends for Bun to be a drop-in replacement. Why •wouldn't* you switch hosting providers for a free massive boost in performance?
  - 999900000999 4y ago
    >Another thing is that he intends for Bun to be a drop-in replacement. Why •wouldn't* you switch hosting providers for a free massive boost in performance? So I'm going to convince upper management to let me host our apps in a new unknown hosting provider vs the AWS contract we already likely have ? Maybe if your a CTO at a startup you could pitch this, but for the most part I'd imagine people will end up using Bun on existing hosts like AWS and Azure. Nothing stops AWS from implementing whatever makes Bun hosting faster on their own platform. Don't get me wrong, I REALLY love Bun as an idea. I'm just not sure it'll make money.

okhuman 4y ago

Bun and deno are in an arms race for nodejs compatibility in order to leverage node's vast ecosystem of libraries (think the "embrace" stage of embrace/extend/extinguish). This compatibility layer will take a long time... and will require early adopters to take more time to produce work which their nodejs counterparts can perform faster.

culi 4y ago
I've been using Deno for a few months and haven't run into an npm package I couldn't use yet... I feel like compatibility-wise both projects are mostly there already
- captainmarble 4y ago
  Try AWS npm