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I was recently asked "Is it better to get any job than keep searching for the job I'd be most suited for?" by a laid off Visa holder. This is even more straigh

I was recently asked "Is it better to get any job than keep searching for the job I'd be most suited for?" by a laid off Visa holder. This is even more straightforward. Yes it is. I know many who are being hit by layoffs. The situation sucks. I don't think there's any advantage to downplaying this right now whether in your own mind or through advice to others. There's a huge number of tech workers laid off simultaneously and very bluntly you should look for any job that supports your Visa as the priority.

lowbloodsugar 4y ago
At this point there is no way any software company could justify, legally, hiring someone on an H1B. There are some 40k layoffs in last few months and certainly a large number of those are US citizens. Any company claiming that they can’t find a US citizen with the right skills is lying.
- r4vik 4y ago
  they've always been lying, the can't find someone with the skills is just a hoop to jump through.
  - phone8675309 4y ago
    The lie is that they can't find someone with the skills The truth is that they can't find someone with the skills who will work like a pittance and who will worry about being deported if they leave/get fired.
- JCM9 4y ago
  The Visa situation is very bad , but technically for better or worse it’s how the system was designed to work. H1Bs are meant to supplement the domestic supply of certain skills to meet demand. If demand drops (or as is happening with now supply increases) then it becomes hard to justify why one needs to hire an H1B over say someone already eligible for employment. Companies always game the system but it’s going to very hard to suggest one can’t find any SDEs at this point. On the above I would correct that it’s not “US Citizen” but someone with full employment eligibility, which could be for example a Green Card holder.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    As much as I tend to "defend" Europes social systems, when it comes to visas there are some similarities. True, once you are eligible for unemployment benefits in Germany, you can extend you residence title for that period. And then, being herw long enough even more. In case you are not eligible yet, well, things are different. I have quite a few collegues that might face that prospect sooner than they like, and of course the employer is not talking about this, nor are my co-workers necessarily aware of that. Kind of makes me angry with my emoloyer, in my book you do not screw around with peoples lives like that.
  - AnotherGoodName 4y ago
    One thing that would be quite reasonable is a longer Visa grace period after losing a job. I don't see what harm this would do. The Visa grace period is currently 50% shorter than a tourist visa to give context.
- hiq 4y ago
  > There are some 40k layoffs in last few months and certainly a large number of those are US citizens. That doesn't matter if they all find a new job very quickly, what's more relevant is the unemployment rate. Is it increasing? At least when it comes to the overall unemployment rate, it seems to be very low when I see articles like this: https://www.businessinsider.com/december-jobs-report-labor-market-payrolls-unemployment-rate-2023-1?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/december-jobs-report-labor-m... I didn't find IT-specific stats to be fully sure (well it's somewhere on https://www.bls.gov https://www.bls.gov if you're so inclined), but I'd be surprised if the IT industry were much worse (if at all) than the average over all industries.
janef0421 4y ago
That would obviously depend on how much you want to maintain your visa.

lowbloodsugar 4y ago

At this point there is no way any software company could justify, legally, hiring someone on an H1B. There are some 40k layoffs in last few months and certainly a large number of those are US citizens. Any company claiming that they can’t find a US citizen with the right skills is lying.

r4vik 4y ago
they've always been lying, the can't find someone with the skills is just a hoop to jump through.
- phone8675309 4y ago
  The lie is that they can't find someone with the skills The truth is that they can't find someone with the skills who will work like a pittance and who will worry about being deported if they leave/get fired.
JCM9 4y ago
The Visa situation is very bad , but technically for better or worse it’s how the system was designed to work. H1Bs are meant to supplement the domestic supply of certain skills to meet demand. If demand drops (or as is happening with now supply increases) then it becomes hard to justify why one needs to hire an H1B over say someone already eligible for employment. Companies always game the system but it’s going to very hard to suggest one can’t find any SDEs at this point. On the above I would correct that it’s not “US Citizen” but someone with full employment eligibility, which could be for example a Green Card holder.
- hef19898 4y ago
  As much as I tend to "defend" Europes social systems, when it comes to visas there are some similarities. True, once you are eligible for unemployment benefits in Germany, you can extend you residence title for that period. And then, being herw long enough even more. In case you are not eligible yet, well, things are different. I have quite a few collegues that might face that prospect sooner than they like, and of course the employer is not talking about this, nor are my co-workers necessarily aware of that. Kind of makes me angry with my emoloyer, in my book you do not screw around with peoples lives like that.
- AnotherGoodName 4y ago
  One thing that would be quite reasonable is a longer Visa grace period after losing a job. I don't see what harm this would do. The Visa grace period is currently 50% shorter than a tourist visa to give context.
hiq 4y ago
> There are some 40k layoffs in last few months and certainly a large number of those are US citizens. That doesn't matter if they all find a new job very quickly, what's more relevant is the unemployment rate. Is it increasing? At least when it comes to the overall unemployment rate, it seems to be very low when I see articles like this: https://www.businessinsider.com/december-jobs-report-labor-market-payrolls-unemployment-rate-2023-1?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/december-jobs-report-labor-m... I didn't find IT-specific stats to be fully sure (well it's somewhere on https://www.bls.gov https://www.bls.gov if you're so inclined), but I'd be surprised if the IT industry were much worse (if at all) than the average over all industries.

janef0421 4y ago

That would obviously depend on how much you want to maintain your visa.