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Absolutely. This happened multiple times throughout my career in Tech. Everything I devoted my life to for years, taken from me, multiple times. There is no suc

Absolutely. This happened multiple times throughout my career in Tech. Everything I devoted my life to for years, taken from me, multiple times. There is no such thing as job security.

1248 4y ago
At least we have it relatively easy (I think you're talking about programming positions?). Imagine working in a mine or something and then what do you do.
- eatsyourtacos 4y ago
  I think these comparisons are kind of disingenuous. Of course we understand what you mean. But on the other hand, it's kind of not relevant at all. OPs life is not that one of a coal miner. In theory this person has worked hard all his life, studied, dedicated time to companies. This is what he is doing. Then it's kind of taken away without his control. Saying "well at least you don't work in a mine" is minimizing his real problem so much. Should it be put in perspective? Sure. But it also doesn't really make it any better. Infact I would argue that kind of response is kind of like "hey why should we give everyone free healthcare? At least you have access to healthcare for money, 100 years ago we barely even had medicine so you should feel lucky!". True.. but also completely misses the entire point.
  - dopamean 4y ago
    There is a major difference between dedicating your life to developing a highly portable skill that you can do from your house and dedicating your life to physical labor that could get you killed and has ever decreasing opportunities for work. Yes, it's super lame if someone loves their job somewhere and gets laid off. It's a bit less lame if that person is highly paid and can find work doing almost the exact same thing somewhere else without leaving their house.
  - sleepychu 4y ago
    I took your parent to mean there are no more jobs out there without moving to another mining town. Versus a programmer job where there are plenty of other "mines" available.
- busterarm 4y ago
  If you listened to journalists over the last several years it was "learn to code". Of course, they get mad when you tell them that.
wmeredith 4y ago
> devoted my life to for years This is the problem (not the actual problem, but the one you can control). Your job isn't your life. I used to think/act this way. Then I was eliminated in a rather soulless manner myself. I realized it was an abusive relationship. I had actual PTSD for a couple of years. I no longer define myself by anything that is so transactional. Business relationships are just that. I am happier, I make more money at job, and I've got several things prioritized over work that fulfill me.
- granshaw 4y ago
  The problem is, Amazon is one of those cult-like places who drill you into thinking you’re blessed with the best job in the world and to live the “amazon way” I can totally seeing someone who joined early in their career falling for that BS
- midoridensha 4y ago
  >I no longer define myself by anything that is so transactional. Business relationships are just that. A very large number of marriages and romantic relationships are too.
driverdan 4y ago
> Everything I devoted my life to for years, taken from me, multiple times. Sounds like you need to step back and re-evaluate your approach. Your work for a large, soulless corporation should not be what you devoted your life to. It's work, not your life.
- hisnameishank 4y ago
  Tech workers should start unionizing. Our skills and talents are borderline a trade and thusly should be bargained for. Having a giant corporation kill off your occupancy with no pre-warning is raw meat for union reps who would love to sue on your behave.
dfxm12 4y ago
There is no such thing as job security. Why do you expect it? Large corporations have stacked the deck against workers for decades (at least). If you really want to be able to work the same job forever, you can try to get yourself a special contract, but you'd have better luck getting such worker protections by working with your state government or fellow workers. If you're worried that too many benefits, compensation, insurance, ability to rent, etc. are tied to employment, you're right there, and we can do better as a society to expand unemployment insurance and get affordable health care that isn't tied to employment, etc. This way, when we do lose a job, not everything is taken is from us.
valtism 4y ago
*No such thing as job security in the US
- thunky 4y ago
  Oh so in France businesses never shut down?

Absolutely. This happened multiple times throughout my career in Tech. Everything I devoted my life to for years, taken from me, multiple times. There is no such thing as job security.

1248 4y ago

At least we have it relatively easy (I think you're talking about programming positions?). Imagine working in a mine or something and then what do you do.

eatsyourtacos 4y ago
I think these comparisons are kind of disingenuous. Of course we understand what you mean. But on the other hand, it's kind of not relevant at all. OPs life is not that one of a coal miner. In theory this person has worked hard all his life, studied, dedicated time to companies. This is what he is doing. Then it's kind of taken away without his control. Saying "well at least you don't work in a mine" is minimizing his real problem so much. Should it be put in perspective? Sure. But it also doesn't really make it any better. Infact I would argue that kind of response is kind of like "hey why should we give everyone free healthcare? At least you have access to healthcare for money, 100 years ago we barely even had medicine so you should feel lucky!". True.. but also completely misses the entire point.
- dopamean 4y ago
  There is a major difference between dedicating your life to developing a highly portable skill that you can do from your house and dedicating your life to physical labor that could get you killed and has ever decreasing opportunities for work. Yes, it's super lame if someone loves their job somewhere and gets laid off. It's a bit less lame if that person is highly paid and can find work doing almost the exact same thing somewhere else without leaving their house.
- sleepychu 4y ago
  I took your parent to mean there are no more jobs out there without moving to another mining town. Versus a programmer job where there are plenty of other "mines" available.
busterarm 4y ago
If you listened to journalists over the last several years it was "learn to code". Of course, they get mad when you tell them that.

wmeredith 4y ago

> devoted my life to for years This is the problem (not the actual problem, but the one you can control). Your job isn't your life. I used to think/act this way. Then I was eliminated in a rather soulless manner myself. I realized it was an abusive relationship. I had actual PTSD for a couple of years. I no longer define myself by anything that is so transactional. Business relationships are just that. I am happier, I make more money at job, and I've got several things prioritized over work that fulfill me.

granshaw 4y ago
The problem is, Amazon is one of those cult-like places who drill you into thinking you’re blessed with the best job in the world and to live the “amazon way” I can totally seeing someone who joined early in their career falling for that BS
midoridensha 4y ago
>I no longer define myself by anything that is so transactional. Business relationships are just that. A very large number of marriages and romantic relationships are too.

driverdan 4y ago

> Everything I devoted my life to for years, taken from me, multiple times. Sounds like you need to step back and re-evaluate your approach. Your work for a large, soulless corporation should not be what you devoted your life to. It's work, not your life.

hisnameishank 4y ago
Tech workers should start unionizing. Our skills and talents are borderline a trade and thusly should be bargained for. Having a giant corporation kill off your occupancy with no pre-warning is raw meat for union reps who would love to sue on your behave.

dfxm12 4y ago

There is no such thing as job security. Why do you expect it? Large corporations have stacked the deck against workers for decades (at least). If you really want to be able to work the same job forever, you can try to get yourself a special contract, but you'd have better luck getting such worker protections by working with your state government or fellow workers. If you're worried that too many benefits, compensation, insurance, ability to rent, etc. are tied to employment, you're right there, and we can do better as a society to expand unemployment insurance and get affordable health care that isn't tied to employment, etc. This way, when we do lose a job, not everything is taken is from us.

valtism 4y ago

*No such thing as job security in the US

thunky 4y ago
Oh so in France businesses never shut down?