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I agree, but I do think that you have to think of the ecosystem of the language if the major cooperation steps away or dials back, maybe thinking of them more l

by AnEro 4y ago

I agree, but I do think that you have to think of the ecosystem of the language if the major cooperation steps away or dials back, maybe thinking of them more like 'dependency'. Go lived through community alone, how well will twitters projects hold up without their involvement because I imagine it's not very lean for twitter to spend time on. I think this argument is better had for frameworks and JavaScript libs. Have caution about who you trust, especially in this new phase of everyone pivoting around AI/BI applications

jonathankoren 4y ago
This is the real threat. So much “open source” technology is just free community editions of closed source software. If any of these companies decide to change course for any reason, you’re screwed. Who’s going to pick it up? You? No, you were coasting along on someone else work, you don’t have a good expertise or slack to support it. But someone who law will right? Nah. They’ll just shrug and pivot, as will you. Maybe I’m just bitter, but I’m on my third “open source” text editor because of machinations inside megacorps suddenly deciding shutdown perfectly fine projects.
- wizzwizz4 4y ago
  > Maybe I’m just bitter, but I’m on my third “open source” text editor because of machinations inside megacorps suddenly deciding shutdown perfectly fine projects. Advice for choosing a text editor: • Avoid Electron. • Avoid custom-looking GUI toolkits. • Avoid IDEs, unless they're highly-modular with a rock-solid, simple base. • Avoid complicated build toolchains. I'm using Geany at the moment, which… almost meets the third criterion, and does meet the fourth. If Geany support stops, I'd vaguely be able to make changes to it; the code's written in C, licensed GPLv2+, and it's well-documented. (If GTK2+ or Scintilla support stop, of course, no dice; I don't understand any of that area of my software stack well enough.) Of course, there are things I want it to do that it doesn't; Geany isn't perfect for my workflow. Better than trying to write my own, though!
- stonemetal12 4y ago
  Same holds true of any software you didn't build yourself. EMACS devs get collective brain fog and start using VS Code tomorrow? I can't support that, same goes for Vim or just about any other editor out there.
  - jonathankoren 4y ago
    You literally picked the two of the longest lived and most successful open source, and not effectively corporate owned projects. I really don’t think this is the critique you think it is.
    - stonemetal12 4y ago
      VB had a lifespan of more than a decade and was seen as a pretty safe bet until it wasn't.

by AnEro 4y ago

jonathankoren 4y ago

This is the real threat. So much “open source” technology is just free community editions of closed source software. If any of these companies decide to change course for any reason, you’re screwed. Who’s going to pick it up? You? No, you were coasting along on someone else work, you don’t have a good expertise or slack to support it. But someone who law will right? Nah. They’ll just shrug and pivot, as will you. Maybe I’m just bitter, but I’m on my third “open source” text editor because of machinations inside megacorps suddenly deciding shutdown perfectly fine projects.

wizzwizz4 4y ago
> Maybe I’m just bitter, but I’m on my third “open source” text editor because of machinations inside megacorps suddenly deciding shutdown perfectly fine projects. Advice for choosing a text editor: • Avoid Electron. • Avoid custom-looking GUI toolkits. • Avoid IDEs, unless they're highly-modular with a rock-solid, simple base. • Avoid complicated build toolchains. I'm using Geany at the moment, which… almost meets the third criterion, and does meet the fourth. If Geany support stops, I'd vaguely be able to make changes to it; the code's written in C, licensed GPLv2+, and it's well-documented. (If GTK2+ or Scintilla support stop, of course, no dice; I don't understand any of that area of my software stack well enough.) Of course, there are things I want it to do that it doesn't; Geany isn't perfect for my workflow. Better than trying to write my own, though!
stonemetal12 4y ago
Same holds true of any software you didn't build yourself. EMACS devs get collective brain fog and start using VS Code tomorrow? I can't support that, same goes for Vim or just about any other editor out there.
- jonathankoren 4y ago
  You literally picked the two of the longest lived and most successful open source, and not effectively corporate owned projects. I really don’t think this is the critique you think it is.
  - stonemetal12 4y ago
    VB had a lifespan of more than a decade and was seen as a pretty safe bet until it wasn't.