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Directing someone to commit a crime is still a crime. OpenAI most likely has criminal liability in this instance and the FBI should open an investigation if the

Directing someone to commit a crime is still a crime. OpenAI most likely has criminal liability in this instance and the FBI should open an investigation if they haven't already.

gowld 4y ago
Criminal liability for someone misunderstanding a request and doing what they were not asked to do? Where did you earn your law degree?
- xdavidliu 4y ago
  You have it backwards; OpenAI was the one that made the request. OpenAI claimed that the Kenyan company misunderstood the request. Your parent comment is claiming that OpenAI is criminally liable for making the request.
- deleted 4y ago
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bluena 4y ago
Crime is not the appropriate word but there's clearly a well documented history of abusing conditions toward data labeling workers [1] [2] [3] For those looking for an AI data labeling service also tries to help workers along the way, here's a plug to the company I started "dataprep.be" [4] We have a small preference for working workers with special needs (deaf, mute and employees with small handicaps). Public subsidies for these type of workers help our case in the EU as well as contraints for some public institutions in the EU to hire more handicap workers. With clients more sensitive to costs, we also work with remote data labelers from developing countries. We help putting checks in place to limit forced and child labor. We pay 5% extra so they have time to learn high demand tech skills. (Using Khan Academy and free access to a normally 250$/year Datacamp subscription) Happy to work with the HN crowd or just receive feedback and mentoring! (My email is in my profile) [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/88apnv/underpaid-workers-are-being-forced-to-train-biased-ai-on-mechanical-turk https://www.vice.com/en/article/88apnv/underpaid-workers-are... [2] https://gizmodo.com/horror-stories-from-inside-amazons-mechanical-turk-1840878041 https://gizmodo.com/horror-stories-from-inside-amazons-mecha... [3] https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-10-20/behind-tiktoks-boom-a-legion-of-traumatised-10-a-day-content-moderators https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-10-20/beh... [4] https://www.dataprep.be https://www.dataprep.be
- rainonmoon 4y ago
  The fact that you refer to workers in "developing countries" as being leveraged for clients "more sensitive to costs" should tip you off that what you're doing is exploitative and dehumanising.

Directing someone to commit a crime is still a crime. OpenAI most likely has criminal liability in this instance and the FBI should open an investigation if they haven't already.

gowld 4y ago

Criminal liability for someone misunderstanding a request and doing what they were not asked to do? Where did you earn your law degree?

xdavidliu 4y ago
You have it backwards; OpenAI was the one that made the request. OpenAI claimed that the Kenyan company misunderstood the request. Your parent comment is claiming that OpenAI is criminally liable for making the request.
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bluena 4y ago

Crime is not the appropriate word but there's clearly a well documented history of abusing conditions toward data labeling workers [1] [2] [3] For those looking for an AI data labeling service also tries to help workers along the way, here's a plug to the company I started "dataprep.be" [4] We have a small preference for working workers with special needs (deaf, mute and employees with small handicaps). Public subsidies for these type of workers help our case in the EU as well as contraints for some public institutions in the EU to hire more handicap workers. With clients more sensitive to costs, we also work with remote data labelers from developing countries. We help putting checks in place to limit forced and child labor. We pay 5% extra so they have time to learn high demand tech skills. (Using Khan Academy and free access to a normally 250$/year Datacamp subscription) Happy to work with the HN crowd or just receive feedback and mentoring! (My email is in my profile) [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/88apnv/underpaid-workers-are-being-forced-to-train-biased-ai-on-mechanical-turk https://www.vice.com/en/article/88apnv/underpaid-workers-are... [2] https://gizmodo.com/horror-stories-from-inside-amazons-mechanical-turk-1840878041 https://gizmodo.com/horror-stories-from-inside-amazons-mecha... [3] https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-10-20/behind-tiktoks-boom-a-legion-of-traumatised-10-a-day-content-moderators https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-10-20/beh... [4] https://www.dataprep.be https://www.dataprep.be

rainonmoon 4y ago
The fact that you refer to workers in "developing countries" as being leveraged for clients "more sensitive to costs" should tip you off that what you're doing is exploitative and dehumanising.