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> Seems like Apple executed the way Google should have with their Google Home Max Google properly executing on Google TV would require them to not build hardwa

> Seems like Apple executed the way Google should have with their Google Home Max Google properly executing on Google TV would require them to not build hardware with 1/12th the single core performance of an Apple TV. (Seriously, it has single core performance around that of a 2011 Intel Atom while the Apple TV has an A15 throwing 12th gen Intel laptop numbers. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/19594628 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/19594628) Seriously, what is with The Chromecast with Google TV? People are like "It's laggy!" and Google is like "We do update!" and people are like "Now it's laggy AND crashes!" My entire experience with my three of them. Software is great, hardware is pure eWaste and they should feel bad about that.

vineyardmike 4y ago
I’ve seen the GTV on sale for $20, the ATV is almost $200. That’s a 10x in price difference. I think the most sensible way to use both devices is as a dumb “cast” target. FWIW, the fireTV literally had a bug where it’d crash because the ad data collecting daemon used up too much processing power. For $20, just be thankful Google has that much self control.
- agloeregrets 4y ago
  Fair point but, this is the definition of fuzzing the margins here. The Google TV retail price is $50, the Apple TV is $129 now. I get that that is a big jump but it's not 12 times the price. The performance per dollar tends to go down as you go up in price, not up.
jen20 4y ago
To be fair, google extend this to software on the Apple TV too - the YouTube and YouTube TV apps are both complete trash that don’t respond to scrolling properly because they’ve been built using some cross platform garbage instead of for the target platform. HBO Max is another offender.
- rsynnott 4y ago
  Worth noting that Google has gone to extra effort here to make YouTube bad on AppleTV; their original first-party AppleTV app was actually significantly better.

vineyardmike 4y ago

I’ve seen the GTV on sale for $20, the ATV is almost $200. That’s a 10x in price difference. I think the most sensible way to use both devices is as a dumb “cast” target. FWIW, the fireTV literally had a bug where it’d crash because the ad data collecting daemon used up too much processing power. For $20, just be thankful Google has that much self control.

agloeregrets 4y ago
Fair point but, this is the definition of fuzzing the margins here. The Google TV retail price is $50, the Apple TV is $129 now. I get that that is a big jump but it's not 12 times the price. The performance per dollar tends to go down as you go up in price, not up.

jen20 4y ago

To be fair, google extend this to software on the Apple TV too - the YouTube and YouTube TV apps are both complete trash that don’t respond to scrolling properly because they’ve been built using some cross platform garbage instead of for the target platform. HBO Max is another offender.

rsynnott 4y ago
Worth noting that Google has gone to extra effort here to make YouTube bad on AppleTV; their original first-party AppleTV app was actually significantly better.