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> When I think about this moment in time, the start of 2023, it’s showtime – for our industry and for Microsoft. He could have left that part out.

by jstx1 4y ago

alex_suzuki 4y ago
Yeah, way to rub it in. Just weird.
mc32 4y ago
It echoes of Steve Ballmer. I hate it when head honchoes try and get cozy with you by signing off with their First Name only --way to take the name away from anyone else in the company with the same name. 99% of the people in a large company like that never met you and don't know you on a first-name basis.
- mathieuh 4y ago
  It's an attempted mind fuck to disguise the true power dynamic. If they say "we're making cuts, you're done. Leave your laptop on your desk and clear off", it's clear what the power dynamic is. Instead they present themselves as your friend. Even if you don't believe it, social norms dictate that in general you act like you do. Like Zizek says, "fuck you, you're a boss, act like it!". Then you're unsure of what's happening. Do they really feel bad? Maybe they're trying their best, maybe they really care about me personally. It's same with all this corporate-speech that's been emerging recently. They're not your family, they're not your friends, and if it comes to it they will fist you so hard you'll be tasting their perfectly-manicured nails. I think it's very important to always have this in mind and not to tie up your identity with your work. You are a line item on a spreadsheet somewhere to them, nothing more. If you start believing otherwise you are setting yourself up for mental health problems when your use runs out and they kick you to the kerb.
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joewhale 4y ago
he's appealing to shareholders, not to our feelings.
22yards 4y ago
Totally!
Cthulhu_ 4y ago
I mean I don't understand the big announcement in the first place; with a company that large, reducing staff count by 10K can be done organically, simply by not hiring replacements. Which makes me think of two things; one, they want to get rid of very specific people, people who wouldn't quit on their own. And two, that they can't just reduce staff count without an announcement, because staff count is one of those metrics that shareholders use to determine whether they're staying, buying or selling stocks. A quiet reduction of staff? They can't hire people anymore, this is bad, I should sell my stocks! A round of layoffs? They're cutting costs, which will be good for profits, I should buy more! Or sell because I've lost confidence. Honestly, the stock market and shareholders are not rational.
- bennyelv 4y ago
  I suspect it’s because they want the reduction focused in specific areas and on the low performers.
- joshribakoff 4y ago
  Some low performing employees just wont leave on their own. Sometimes its the higher performers who feel they deserve more compensation and leave. With your proposal the company could end up with only the low performers which is the opposite intent of a layoff
  - jstx1 4y ago
    It's not necessarily for performance, more often these layoffs are a way to get rid entire teams and you can't do that through natural attrition.
    - actionfromafar 4y ago
      Maybe some of them can add some expertise to help ReactOS[0]. :-) (Yes, I know about copyright law and taint, but there is an awful lot to be done which isn't specifically commiting code to the main project. Unit tests, debugging, porting other software, create a startup for embedded "Windows" deployed with ReactOS with free licensing etc.) 0: http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,154431 http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,154431

> When I think about this moment in time, the start of 2023, it’s showtime – for our industry and for Microsoft. He could have left that part out.

by jstx1 4y ago

> When I think about this moment in time, the start of 2023, it’s showtime – for our industry and for Microsoft. He could have left that part out.

alex_suzuki 4y ago

Yeah, way to rub it in. Just weird.

mc32 4y ago

It echoes of Steve Ballmer. I hate it when head honchoes try and get cozy with you by signing off with their First Name only --way to take the name away from anyone else in the company with the same name. 99% of the people in a large company like that never met you and don't know you on a first-name basis.

mathieuh 4y ago
It's an attempted mind fuck to disguise the true power dynamic. If they say "we're making cuts, you're done. Leave your laptop on your desk and clear off", it's clear what the power dynamic is. Instead they present themselves as your friend. Even if you don't believe it, social norms dictate that in general you act like you do. Like Zizek says, "fuck you, you're a boss, act like it!". Then you're unsure of what's happening. Do they really feel bad? Maybe they're trying their best, maybe they really care about me personally. It's same with all this corporate-speech that's been emerging recently. They're not your family, they're not your friends, and if it comes to it they will fist you so hard you'll be tasting their perfectly-manicured nails. I think it's very important to always have this in mind and not to tie up your identity with your work. You are a line item on a spreadsheet somewhere to them, nothing more. If you start believing otherwise you are setting yourself up for mental health problems when your use runs out and they kick you to the kerb.
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joewhale 4y ago

he's appealing to shareholders, not to our feelings.

22yards 4y ago

Totally!

Cthulhu_ 4y ago

I mean I don't understand the big announcement in the first place; with a company that large, reducing staff count by 10K can be done organically, simply by not hiring replacements. Which makes me think of two things; one, they want to get rid of very specific people, people who wouldn't quit on their own. And two, that they can't just reduce staff count without an announcement, because staff count is one of those metrics that shareholders use to determine whether they're staying, buying or selling stocks. A quiet reduction of staff? They can't hire people anymore, this is bad, I should sell my stocks! A round of layoffs? They're cutting costs, which will be good for profits, I should buy more! Or sell because I've lost confidence. Honestly, the stock market and shareholders are not rational.

bennyelv 4y ago
I suspect it’s because they want the reduction focused in specific areas and on the low performers.
joshribakoff 4y ago
Some low performing employees just wont leave on their own. Sometimes its the higher performers who feel they deserve more compensation and leave. With your proposal the company could end up with only the low performers which is the opposite intent of a layoff
- jstx1 4y ago
  It's not necessarily for performance, more often these layoffs are a way to get rid entire teams and you can't do that through natural attrition.
  - actionfromafar 4y ago
    Maybe some of them can add some expertise to help ReactOS[0]. :-) (Yes, I know about copyright law and taint, but there is an awful lot to be done which isn't specifically commiting code to the main project. Unit tests, debugging, porting other software, create a startup for embedded "Windows" deployed with ReactOS with free licensing etc.) 0: http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,154431 http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,154431