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No one complains about Brampton yet a Ukrainian community is an issue? Edit - there's also the issue of Chinatowns, Jewish enclaves and others, yet this articl

No one complains about Brampton yet a Ukrainian community is an issue? Edit - there's also the issue of Chinatowns, Jewish enclaves and others, yet this article wants to attack Ukrainians, why?

Karsteski 4y ago
People do complain about Brampton as well. Just because it's not in this article doesn't mean people don't bring it up lol... I've definitely seen listings that won't rent to muslim/hindu people etc., for example
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  I mean in the sense that no one questions the idea that it should be allowed to be an ethnic enclave. Meanwhile here's an entire article saying Ukrainians shouldn't be allowed to have a community.
  - Mountain_Skies 4y ago
    Do you also speak up in support of white Christian nationalists having their own enclaves? Not in your mind, but on public message boards or even face-to-face?
    - DontchaKnowit 4y ago
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    - Mikeb85 4y ago
      So is this more Russian propaganda denying that Ukrainians are a distinct people or a brain-dead comment about how all white people are the same? Because while the British were conquering half the world and running the transatlantic slave trade, Ukrainian people were simply trying to avoid being conquered by various powers and subjected to genocide. The Mongols, Ottomans, Tatars, Polish-Lithuanians, Austro-Hungarians, Germans and Russians all conquered Ukraine at times, the Russians subjected them to a genocide and are currently attempting another... Ukraine's last 700 years of history are basically just attempting to stay alive and independent. But sure, go on about how they're the same as WASPs and have white privilege or some other nonsense. Anyhow, Ukrainians have distinct language, culture, food and are mostly a religion that's a tiny minority in North America, so go on about why they can't decide to have a small enclave when literally every other culture does. Why are Chinatowns and Jewish quarters OK but not a single Ukrainian country club?
      - mardifoufs 4y ago
        You just ignored the question, though, and this has nothing to do with russia, so that was just a weird deflection. Yes, ukrainians are a distinct nation. But the point is that discriminating based on race or ethnicity is bad, no matter what. Would it be ok for french people to create a french only city/community in France? As for jews and chinese communities, yes it would be bad if appartments in chinatown explicitly discriminated against non chinese people.
        Mikeb85 4y ago
        > Would it be ok for french people to create a french only city/community in France? Is Canada Ukraine? Because Ukrainians are an ethnic minority in Canada... French people in France is a terrible example and you know it. That being said, French people literally have their own province in Canada. Where their language and culture is protected by law! > yes it would be bad if appartments in chinatown explicitly discriminated against non chinese people. Have I got news for you...
        benj111 4y ago
        Discrimination is discrimination. Positive discrimination is the flip side of negative discrimination. If there's a good argument put forward as to why there needs to be discrimination, I'll listen to it, but 'ethnic minority' isn't an argument. Whites are an ethnic minority in South Africa after all.
        Mikeb85 4y ago
        > Whites are an ethnic minority in South Africa after all. Oh look, another disingenuous comparison of people who colonized every continent versus people who were oppressed for 700 years and had a genocide carried out against them because of a similarity in skin colour. You gonna say Filipinos and Japanese have the same privilege because they're both Asian?
        benj111 4y ago
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No one complains about Brampton yet a Ukrainian community is an issue? Edit - there's also the issue of Chinatowns, Jewish enclaves and others, yet this article wants to attack Ukrainians, why?

Karsteski 4y ago

People do complain about Brampton as well. Just because it's not in this article doesn't mean people don't bring it up lol... I've definitely seen listings that won't rent to muslim/hindu people etc., for example

Mikeb85 4y ago
I mean in the sense that no one questions the idea that it should be allowed to be an ethnic enclave. Meanwhile here's an entire article saying Ukrainians shouldn't be allowed to have a community.
- Mountain_Skies 4y ago
  Do you also speak up in support of white Christian nationalists having their own enclaves? Not in your mind, but on public message boards or even face-to-face?
  - DontchaKnowit 4y ago
    [flagged]
  - Mikeb85 4y ago
    So is this more Russian propaganda denying that Ukrainians are a distinct people or a brain-dead comment about how all white people are the same? Because while the British were conquering half the world and running the transatlantic slave trade, Ukrainian people were simply trying to avoid being conquered by various powers and subjected to genocide. The Mongols, Ottomans, Tatars, Polish-Lithuanians, Austro-Hungarians, Germans and Russians all conquered Ukraine at times, the Russians subjected them to a genocide and are currently attempting another... Ukraine's last 700 years of history are basically just attempting to stay alive and independent. But sure, go on about how they're the same as WASPs and have white privilege or some other nonsense. Anyhow, Ukrainians have distinct language, culture, food and are mostly a religion that's a tiny minority in North America, so go on about why they can't decide to have a small enclave when literally every other culture does. Why are Chinatowns and Jewish quarters OK but not a single Ukrainian country club?
    - mardifoufs 4y ago
      You just ignored the question, though, and this has nothing to do with russia, so that was just a weird deflection. Yes, ukrainians are a distinct nation. But the point is that discriminating based on race or ethnicity is bad, no matter what. Would it be ok for french people to create a french only city/community in France? As for jews and chinese communities, yes it would be bad if appartments in chinatown explicitly discriminated against non chinese people.
      - Mikeb85 4y ago
        > Would it be ok for french people to create a french only city/community in France? Is Canada Ukraine? Because Ukrainians are an ethnic minority in Canada... French people in France is a terrible example and you know it. That being said, French people literally have their own province in Canada. Where their language and culture is protected by law! > yes it would be bad if appartments in chinatown explicitly discriminated against non chinese people. Have I got news for you...
        benj111 4y ago
        Discrimination is discrimination. Positive discrimination is the flip side of negative discrimination. If there's a good argument put forward as to why there needs to be discrimination, I'll listen to it, but 'ethnic minority' isn't an argument. Whites are an ethnic minority in South Africa after all.
        Mikeb85 4y ago
        > Whites are an ethnic minority in South Africa after all. Oh look, another disingenuous comparison of people who colonized every continent versus people who were oppressed for 700 years and had a genocide carried out against them because of a similarity in skin colour. You gonna say Filipinos and Japanese have the same privilege because they're both Asian?
        benj111 4y ago

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