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I’m very much an anecdote here, but want to give a different perspective. I’m an Apple “fan” (at least, I have more of Apple’s devices than other brands), and I

I’m very much an anecdote here, but want to give a different perspective. I’m an Apple “fan” (at least, I have more of Apple’s devices than other brands), and I don’t want voice activation. I don’t feel comfortable something listening to all my intimate family conversations. Maybe Apple fans are more likely to be privacy conscious. All that being said, it doesn’t need to be either or. They could have a great Siri product for those who want it, and allow it to be deactivated for those who don’t.

agloeregrets 4y ago
You want a Sonos SL or Ikea Symfonisk (Sonos sw/hw in Ikea design). Great products, no mic, Airplay 2 support, massive group pairing and the same room detection tuning Apple bragged about in the Homepod via the App on a phone instead of mics. (Sonos holds the patent on it and famously made no claims about Apple stealing it while asking Google and Amazon to pay licenses, aka: Apple Ponied up.)
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  > Sonos holds the patent on it I’m a huge Sonos fan but I think their patent was “volume control for connected/synced speakers” and apple had a UI to control each speaker volume separately. I also suspect that apple shared Airplay with them j stead of paying. I know lots of people that bought Sonos instead of the HomePod because it supported airplay. Edit: nevermind
  - agloeregrets 4y ago
    https://www.engadget.com/sonos-google-itc-compliant-initial-ruling-220232437.html https://www.engadget.com/sonos-google-itc-compliant-initial-... Nope. Google turned the trueplay knockoff off real fast (as it was easy to remove) and took time to disable group volume control.
- astrange 4y ago
  Room detection isn't exclusive to Sonos, unless you're claiming YPAO/Dirac/Audyssey also licensed it. The HomePod is different because it does detection at the source, where everything else needs you to sample with a mic or phone app.
  - agloeregrets 4y ago
    That room detection onboard belongs to Sonos. Auto Trueplay is what they call it.

agloeregrets 4y ago

You want a Sonos SL or Ikea Symfonisk (Sonos sw/hw in Ikea design). Great products, no mic, Airplay 2 support, massive group pairing and the same room detection tuning Apple bragged about in the Homepod via the App on a phone instead of mics. (Sonos holds the patent on it and famously made no claims about Apple stealing it while asking Google and Amazon to pay licenses, aka: Apple Ponied up.)

vineyardmike 4y ago
> Sonos holds the patent on it I’m a huge Sonos fan but I think their patent was “volume control for connected/synced speakers” and apple had a UI to control each speaker volume separately. I also suspect that apple shared Airplay with them j stead of paying. I know lots of people that bought Sonos instead of the HomePod because it supported airplay. Edit: nevermind
- agloeregrets 4y ago
  https://www.engadget.com/sonos-google-itc-compliant-initial-ruling-220232437.html https://www.engadget.com/sonos-google-itc-compliant-initial-... Nope. Google turned the trueplay knockoff off real fast (as it was easy to remove) and took time to disable group volume control.
astrange 4y ago
Room detection isn't exclusive to Sonos, unless you're claiming YPAO/Dirac/Audyssey also licensed it. The HomePod is different because it does detection at the source, where everything else needs you to sample with a mic or phone app.
- agloeregrets 4y ago
  That room detection onboard belongs to Sonos. Auto Trueplay is what they call it.