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Sorry to be that guy, but this is why XFCE is so good! Them random delays when doing simple things in windows is so frustrating. A desktop should get out of y

by roomey 4y ago

Sorry to be that guy, but this is why XFCE is so good! Them random delays when doing simple things in windows is so frustrating. A desktop should get out of your way, and be so quick you don't notice it. Window switches, minimizing, maximising, launching, closing etc. Or my personal favourite, type and the letters take their time to appear. Only after you have worked with a system that never ever lags on these everyday actions do you see how frustrating it is to work every day with these laggy things. I saw some Mac users comment on the lack of lag on their laptops! I'm sure they can identify with how nice it is.

gcbirzan 4y ago
I honestly don't know what they're talking about, I had a mac until recently and very often I'd get up to 500ms delay in writing in a Chrome text box.
- acdha 4y ago
  Anything more than roughly 10ms from the key being depressed to the display updating is not normal on a Mac. If you’re seeing 500ms that’s either something specific to Chrome (the timing is slow enough I’d believe a network call for something like spell checking or suggestions) or some kind of extension interfering with the normal system behavior. I’ve heard about that with some security software so it can be useful to report those as bugs.
  - gcbirzan 4y ago
    It's not specific to chrome, it's just worse in chrome. Iterm doesn't have this problem, but pretty much everything else I use does: intellij, slack, chrome, Firefox. We use crowdstrike, but even before that I had this problem. My mac is just painfully slow, if I start docker it becomes almost unusable. This is a 2019 Intel one, btw, it might not be so bad on m1s, but when I got the job (and the mac) , only the original one external monitor m1s were available.
    - acdha 4y ago
      Interesting, there's definitely something abnormal about that system — the old 2012 Mac Book Air I used to use still has an order of magnitude better latency than what you're reporting. If I owned that I'd run a full hardware diagnostic[1] and would strongly consider doing a clean wipe and reinstall. One easy thing to try would be booting in recovery mode[2] and seeing what the latency is like in the built-in applications there after it starts up. If that's normal speed, you could create a new user and see if that's affected to see whether it's something like a problem with the spelling dictionary, etc. (it's possible that this has nothing to do with text input and is just a general problem, too, but that's the first thing which came to mind). 1. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202731 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202731 2. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/use-macos-recovery-on-an-intel-based-mac-mchl338cf9a8/13.0/mac/13.0#mchl69906860 https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/use-macos-recovery-...
nerdponx 4y ago
The XFCE whisker menu is an excellent start menu.
- roomey 4y ago
  I don't use it much, but yes, when I do it's quick and self organised! I like ALT+F2 to bring up the nice little launcher. Usually have to type two letters to get the app I want. ... With no lag ;)

by roomey 4y ago

gcbirzan 4y ago

I honestly don't know what they're talking about, I had a mac until recently and very often I'd get up to 500ms delay in writing in a Chrome text box.

acdha 4y ago
Anything more than roughly 10ms from the key being depressed to the display updating is not normal on a Mac. If you’re seeing 500ms that’s either something specific to Chrome (the timing is slow enough I’d believe a network call for something like spell checking or suggestions) or some kind of extension interfering with the normal system behavior. I’ve heard about that with some security software so it can be useful to report those as bugs.
- gcbirzan 4y ago
  It's not specific to chrome, it's just worse in chrome. Iterm doesn't have this problem, but pretty much everything else I use does: intellij, slack, chrome, Firefox. We use crowdstrike, but even before that I had this problem. My mac is just painfully slow, if I start docker it becomes almost unusable. This is a 2019 Intel one, btw, it might not be so bad on m1s, but when I got the job (and the mac) , only the original one external monitor m1s were available.
  - acdha 4y ago
    Interesting, there's definitely something abnormal about that system — the old 2012 Mac Book Air I used to use still has an order of magnitude better latency than what you're reporting. If I owned that I'd run a full hardware diagnostic[1] and would strongly consider doing a clean wipe and reinstall. One easy thing to try would be booting in recovery mode[2] and seeing what the latency is like in the built-in applications there after it starts up. If that's normal speed, you could create a new user and see if that's affected to see whether it's something like a problem with the spelling dictionary, etc. (it's possible that this has nothing to do with text input and is just a general problem, too, but that's the first thing which came to mind). 1. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202731 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202731 2. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/use-macos-recovery-on-an-intel-based-mac-mchl338cf9a8/13.0/mac/13.0#mchl69906860 https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/use-macos-recovery-...

nerdponx 4y ago

The XFCE whisker menu is an excellent start menu.

roomey 4y ago
I don't use it much, but yes, when I do it's quick and self organised! I like ALT+F2 to bring up the nice little launcher. Usually have to type two letters to get the app I want. ... With no lag ;)