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> I also have a strong instinct against doing this, because it feels like self sabotage With this framing, it can turn your life into a disaster. Up to that p
by kubanczyk 4y ago
> I also have a strong instinct against doing this, because it feels like self sabotage
With this framing, it can turn your life into a disaster.
Up to that point, I was nodding to every sentence you wrote. But not to this, no. When I demoted myself in my time, which ended very well, I had a different framing (or, a different gut feeling). My instinct was that I'm selling my well-being for much much too low a price and that, this time, there is a greener pasture.
I was noticing the money flow and how I was enabling a business owner, a very concrete physical person, to profit immensely. You can call it envy, I'd say I've learned that I can enter and leave any business transaction as I please.
The career path is just smoke and mirrors.
The ownership shenanigans is just smoke and mirrors. It doesn't matter that the ownership is split into million shares, because in the end of the chain the wealth (from many companies) does converge to an individual. Look through these schemes. As a thought experiment, think about that individual on a hard day, imagine how you've just made "him" 2 million with your sacrifice and you will get 20 grand bonus.
I'm not saying to go to the streets and loot the businesses, I'm saying you need to see your transaction and your options clearly, without distractions. Talk to your family in this framing as well.
- badpun 4y ago> When I demoted myself in my time, which ended very well, I had a different framing (or, a different gut feeling). My instinct was that I'm selling my well-being for much much too low a price and that, this time, there is a greener pasture. My thoughts exactly. Management or enterprise architecture seems so much more stressful and uncomfortable than coding that I would consider doing it for at least 70% raise (and probably would require closer over 100% to really pull the trigger). Whereas, in practice it pays maybe 30% more than coding and, in many companies here in Europe, actually less than coding (managers are perms with meager salaries, coders are contractors with fat daily rates).
- someguydave 4y agoThe problem with this thinking is that an effective engineer in a profitable company is going to make someone alot of money. If you want to capture that money for yourself you can, but it will be a very hard slog.
- kubanczyk 4y agoMaking a lot of money for someone else is not the problem. The problem is confusion about some of the aspects of being-a-miserable-manager or being-an-effective-engineer. Not seeing clearly your entire cost/benefit and employer's entire cost/benefit.
- someguydave 4y agoIf humans actually knew how to measure the value-added by any particular engineer or manager with high certainty then I'm pretty sure that tech corporations would be operated much differently.
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