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Can you cite "various US agencies stats"? I say this as someone who used FSD Beta for a full year and Autopilot (with Navigate on Autopilot) for over 3 years no

Can you cite "various US agencies stats"? I say this as someone who used FSD Beta for a full year and Autopilot (with Navigate on Autopilot) for over 3 years now. It would actually help the conversation here to cite it, though I never knew third-parties evaluated Tesla's claims/statistics.

AlexandrB 4y ago
There's also a strong selection bias to a bulk stat like the one parent mentioned. Teslas are expensive cars and I'm guessing their drivers are likely to be older, more affluent, and more educated that average - this all correlates to lower accidents/fatalities regardless of FSD[1][2]. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24103823/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24103823/ [2] https://personalinjurylawyersaustintx.com/blog/education-level-affects-accident-rates/ https://personalinjurylawyersaustintx.com/blog/education-lev...
- gorango 4y ago
  You are absolutely correct - Tesla's own report acknowledges this, but it also highlights how this safety stat is dwarfed when autopilot is active: https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/tesla/5f933e78-0efb-46f5-8b3b-1a633c366a9e/bvlatuR/std/1286x2254/safety-report-desktop https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/tesla/5f93... Reference: https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport