> Are you saying that these systems are just copying? Your use of "just" is an issue, IMO. A significant problem of these systems is that they do copy. They

> Are you saying that these systems are just copying? Your use of "just" is an issue, IMO. A significant problem of these systems is that they do copy. They do produce clearly derivative works of the data they're trained on. Copilot has been observed reproducing entire files, verbatim, from its training set. That they can be used to produce novel-seeming works is a legitimately interesting conversation to have, but as long as they're reproducing copyrighted works and clear derivatives thereof, that isn't the conversation the lawyers are interested in having.