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Their licensing does not ban benchmarking; it only bans publishing the results. A subtle but important point. By all means, run benchmarks on your workload pro
by IMTDb 4y ago
Their licensing does not ban benchmarking; it only bans publishing the results. A subtle but important point.
By all means, run benchmarks on your workload profile and choose the technology that works best for you - that is perfectly OK. But not make claim that xxx beats oracle in yyy.
Oracle goal here is to make a good enterprise ready DB solution; not to fight the open-source community on hundreds of different performance claims, half of which have been specifically engineered to put the competing, leading product in a bad light.
You might not like what oracle does or how they do it, but it’s clear that they have a target on their back and sometimes the best way to play the game is not to play at all.
Just look at the « independent and fair review » that Top Gear made about Tesla.
- lmm 4y ago> Oracle goal here is to make a good enterprise ready DB solution Maybe. Or maybe it's to soak naive clients for all they're worth. The remedy for bad benchmarks is good benchmarks, not no benchmarks. > Just look at the « independent and fair review » that Top Gear made about Tesla. What about it? It was accurate and informative (unless you think Tesla lied about their range stats). The good points about electric cars are real but they don't mean we should ignore the downsides.
- yawaramin 4y ago> The remedy for bad benchmarks is good benchmarks, not no benchmarks. The comment you replied to just said Oracle allows running benchmarks internally, though.
- lmm 4y agoSure. How likely is it that someone running bechmarks internally - who is unlikely to be a benchmarking expert - is going to do a better job than a dedicated benchmarking project like TechEmpower that has a whole lot of people looking and contributing?
- yawaramin 4y agoTechEmpower accepts a wide variety of contributions without much vetting. It allows quite a lot of benchmark gaming. The mantra of every good engineer about benchmarks is, 'Don't trust others' benchmarks, do your own with realistic workloads'.
- IMTDb 4y agoIt was later shown that the whole part were the Tesla goes out of power was staged. The car did inform them it would run out of battery on the way. They made a segment about it and failed to inform the viewer that they had ignored several warnings given by the car before reaching the « oh no we are out of battery in the middle of nowhere » point. This is not what I would qualify as a « fair review ». There are no « false claims » (they did run out of battery, after all !) but the information are given and presented in a way that paints the reviewed product in a specific light.
- lmm 4y agoThe way I remember it it was the other way around. They had the voiceover saying "and after x miles..." with a video of their crew pushing the Tesla into their pit lane. Tesla's argument in the lawsuit was that based on their telemetry they hadn't actually had zero battery when filming this, which seems beside the point when they quoted the mileage number from Tesla's own materials.