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https://nypost.com/2023/01/17/astrophysicist-natalie-gosnell-accuses-field-of-being-riddled-with-white-supremacy/ https://nypost.com/2023/01/17/astrophysicist-n

https://nypost.com/2023/01/17/astrophysicist-natalie-gosnell-accuses-field-of-being-riddled-with-white-supremacy/ https://nypost.com/2023/01/17/astrophysicist-natalie-gosnell... Not what this person says.

defrost 4y ago
In that NYPost article Dr Natalie Gosnell isn't discussing the PhD requirement for advancement within the US National Labs .. so you may have to expand your point if you want to make one.
- throwawaylinux 4y ago
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  - defrost 4y ago
    I was specifically talking about a PhD requirement as a precursor step in a research career. > Academia is a shocking hive of nepotism and corruption wherever you are. Also isn't something discussed by Dr Natalie Gosnell who has her Dr. and a position. Her complaint (in the article you linked) is that " astrophysics .. is paralyzed by “systemic racism and white supremacy” ". There's no obvious mention of nepo babies in that link that you selected. My own preference is for astro tangential projects such as https://www.sarao.ac.za/media-releases/2022-africa-data-science-intensive-programme-projects-find-sustainable-solutions-to-real-world-problems/ https://www.sarao.ac.za/media-releases/2022-africa-data-scie... which are off shoots from the larger SKA project initiated here back in the 1980s.
    - throwawaylinux 4y ago
      It's largely part of the same rotten thing. You think rampant “systemic racism and white supremacy” and sexism has absolutely no relationship to the presence of nepotism or glass ceilings? Or that its presence in one part of academia has no bearing on whether or not its present in academic-adjacent industry, who could not be expected to have any idea about the problems in academia? Come on.
  - amusedcyclist 4y ago
    Its really not, have you ever spent any actual time in academia ?
    - throwawaylinux 4y ago
      Yes. And I'll let my link speak for itself, do you deny the claims made by Dr Natalie Gosnell?
  - dang 4y ago
    Please don't post in the flamewar style. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines in other places recently too, e.g. with personal attacks and using HN for ideological battle. We end up having to ban accounts that do that. I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review the rules and use HN as intended, we'd appreciate it.
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defrost 4y ago

In that NYPost article Dr Natalie Gosnell isn't discussing the PhD requirement for advancement within the US National Labs .. so you may have to expand your point if you want to make one.

throwawaylinux 4y ago
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- defrost 4y ago
  I was specifically talking about a PhD requirement as a precursor step in a research career. > Academia is a shocking hive of nepotism and corruption wherever you are. Also isn't something discussed by Dr Natalie Gosnell who has her Dr. and a position. Her complaint (in the article you linked) is that " astrophysics .. is paralyzed by “systemic racism and white supremacy” ". There's no obvious mention of nepo babies in that link that you selected. My own preference is for astro tangential projects such as https://www.sarao.ac.za/media-releases/2022-africa-data-science-intensive-programme-projects-find-sustainable-solutions-to-real-world-problems/ https://www.sarao.ac.za/media-releases/2022-africa-data-scie... which are off shoots from the larger SKA project initiated here back in the 1980s.
  - throwawaylinux 4y ago
    It's largely part of the same rotten thing. You think rampant “systemic racism and white supremacy” and sexism has absolutely no relationship to the presence of nepotism or glass ceilings? Or that its presence in one part of academia has no bearing on whether or not its present in academic-adjacent industry, who could not be expected to have any idea about the problems in academia? Come on.
- amusedcyclist 4y ago
  Its really not, have you ever spent any actual time in academia ?
  - throwawaylinux 4y ago
    Yes. And I'll let my link speak for itself, do you deny the claims made by Dr Natalie Gosnell?
- dang 4y ago
  Please don't post in the flamewar style. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines in other places recently too, e.g. with personal attacks and using HN for ideological battle. We end up having to ban accounts that do that. I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review the rules and use HN as intended, we'd appreciate it.

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